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The coins appear to have moved a few times since the "seizure": https://blockchain.info/tx/ec3c6440a5302eade99c3be3dbe47524377779e009f632bd74f9ceee3df84c56 htt

by ferdo 13y ago

The coins appear to have moved a few times since the "seizure": https://blockchain.info/tx/ec3c6440a5302eade99c3be3dbe47524377779e009f632bd74f9ceee3df84c56 https://blockchain.info/tx/ec3c6440a5302eade99c3be3dbe475243...

hackinthebochs 13y ago
Of course they have to be moved to really be considered "seized", otherwise they just have a copy which can be invalidated before they control the value of the coins.
- _delirium 13y ago
  Interesting. I guess that means the DEA has some technology people who have been tasked with figuring out how Bitcoin works, sufficiently well to understand what it would mean to "seize" it and actually carry that out.
  - dfc 13y ago
    The only way that this would be "interesting" is if you started off with the assumption that everyone that works for the government is brain dead.
    - mpyne 13y ago
      Doesn't everyone start with that assumption though?
      - dfc 13y ago
        I hope not, it seems incredibly naive.
        mpyne 13y ago
        It is, but the normal assumption I've always seen made of governments is that they are a collection of those who were too dumb to make it "in the real world". At least, until that assumption becomes inconvenient for whatever point the person was trying to make.
        dfc 13y ago
        Do you consider "wanting to give back" or "a commitment to service" or similar expressions of idealism a sign of complete stupidity?
        anigbrowl 13y ago
        I don't think mpyne considers people in government to be brain dead, but it's a popular stereotype here on HN - whenever people disapprove of some government policy they complain that government bureaucrats are too stupid to understand technology. See, for example, the Bitcoin foundation thread on the front page, or any court case whose outcome disappoints people.
        dfc 13y ago
        I am well aware of the naive sentiment that can be found on *any forum/list" (not just HN) regarding the "guberment." mpyne is on the mental list of usernames that triggers my "read this comment don't merely skim" reaction. If it was a comment by a username I did not recognize I probably would not have responded.
        anigbrowl 13y ago
        Likewise. I think we're all actually in agreement on this.
        mpyne 13y ago
        Do I personally? No, otherwise I would be at least partially stupid myself. I will say that many people simply don't think in terms of idealism, at least not to the extent they'd allow it to impact major life decisions. And many who are idealistic would still feel they can "change the world" more effectively outside the government than within...
    - sliverstorm 13y ago
      Holy crap, the government was able to figure out how to download and install bitcoin-qt!?! This was NOT on our list of possible scenarios!
  - bdcravens 13y ago
    the DEA has some technology people I'll step out on a limb and say that given their annual budget of almost $3B, they have a technology person or 2 on staff.

by ferdo 13y ago

hackinthebochs 13y ago

Of course they have to be moved to really be considered "seized", otherwise they just have a copy which can be invalidated before they control the value of the coins.

_delirium 13y ago
Interesting. I guess that means the DEA has some technology people who have been tasked with figuring out how Bitcoin works, sufficiently well to understand what it would mean to "seize" it and actually carry that out.
- dfc 13y ago
  The only way that this would be "interesting" is if you started off with the assumption that everyone that works for the government is brain dead.
  - mpyne 13y ago
    Doesn't everyone start with that assumption though?
    - dfc 13y ago
      I hope not, it seems incredibly naive.
      - mpyne 13y ago
        It is, but the normal assumption I've always seen made of governments is that they are a collection of those who were too dumb to make it "in the real world". At least, until that assumption becomes inconvenient for whatever point the person was trying to make.
        dfc 13y ago
        Do you consider "wanting to give back" or "a commitment to service" or similar expressions of idealism a sign of complete stupidity?
        anigbrowl 13y ago
        I don't think mpyne considers people in government to be brain dead, but it's a popular stereotype here on HN - whenever people disapprove of some government policy they complain that government bureaucrats are too stupid to understand technology. See, for example, the Bitcoin foundation thread on the front page, or any court case whose outcome disappoints people.
        dfc 13y ago
        I am well aware of the naive sentiment that can be found on *any forum/list" (not just HN) regarding the "guberment." mpyne is on the mental list of usernames that triggers my "read this comment don't merely skim" reaction. If it was a comment by a username I did not recognize I probably would not have responded.
        anigbrowl 13y ago
        Likewise. I think we're all actually in agreement on this.
        mpyne 13y ago
        Do I personally? No, otherwise I would be at least partially stupid myself. I will say that many people simply don't think in terms of idealism, at least not to the extent they'd allow it to impact major life decisions. And many who are idealistic would still feel they can "change the world" more effectively outside the government than within...
  - sliverstorm 13y ago
    Holy crap, the government was able to figure out how to download and install bitcoin-qt!?! This was NOT on our list of possible scenarios!
- bdcravens 13y ago
  the DEA has some technology people I'll step out on a limb and say that given their annual budget of almost $3B, they have a technology person or 2 on staff.