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Google has a legal team whose full-time job is pushing back on these requests. At some point, they have to either obey the law, or go to prison themselves. Ge

by jholman 13y ago

Google has a legal team whose full-time job is pushing back on these requests. At some point, they have to either obey the law, or go to prison themselves. Get off your high horse. It feels like some people won't be satisfied unless Google says "well, our existence has many benefits, but it also makes it slightly easier for the government to spy on people, so we're closing up shop".

breck 13y ago
I think Google is doing a great job. I was offering a suggestion of one angle they could play.
throwaway10001 13y ago
Google has a legal team whose full-time job is pushing back on these requests. At some point, they have to either obey the law, or go to prison themselves. Get off your high horse. Google has a business model whose entire premise is to push the envelope on privacy and to collect as much as possible and hold it forever--to make a few extra pennies per user. Get off your high horse. Google (and FB) is /are a menace to us all, even if only because they gather so much private data about us.
- mpyne 13y ago
  How can they collect private data on you personally if you don't use their product?
  - throwaway10001 13y ago
    How can they collect private data on you personally if you don't use their product? How can NSA collect data if you don't use your phone, email or browse the internet? See Google's reach, especially via Analytics, Adsense, G+, Youtube etc. Yeah, we agree that people should think for using so many products from any one company.
malandrew 13y ago
The warrant should detail the nature of the crime being investigated, the dates under which they believe a crime was committed and the range of dates that are reasonable to investigate based on the aforementioned facts. That's reasonable. A blanket warrant impacting all emails since the beginning of time is not reasonable. If the cant name a crime and give a date or dates then they shouldn't be asking for a warrant.

by jholman 13y ago

breck 13y ago

I think Google is doing a great job. I was offering a suggestion of one angle they could play.

throwaway10001 13y ago

Google has a legal team whose full-time job is pushing back on these requests. At some point, they have to either obey the law, or go to prison themselves. Get off your high horse. Google has a business model whose entire premise is to push the envelope on privacy and to collect as much as possible and hold it forever--to make a few extra pennies per user. Get off your high horse. Google (and FB) is /are a menace to us all, even if only because they gather so much private data about us.

mpyne 13y ago
How can they collect private data on you personally if you don't use their product?
- throwaway10001 13y ago
  How can they collect private data on you personally if you don't use their product? How can NSA collect data if you don't use your phone, email or browse the internet? See Google's reach, especially via Analytics, Adsense, G+, Youtube etc. Yeah, we agree that people should think for using so many products from any one company.

malandrew 13y ago

The warrant should detail the nature of the crime being investigated, the dates under which they believe a crime was committed and the range of dates that are reasonable to investigate based on the aforementioned facts. That's reasonable. A blanket warrant impacting all emails since the beginning of time is not reasonable. If the cant name a crime and give a date or dates then they shouldn't be asking for a warrant.