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So prejudice and hatred are OK, as long as the group you hate isn't marginalized? Or maybe it's a hipster thing? Marginalizing immigrants and transvestites is

by cwp 13y ago

So prejudice and hatred are OK, as long as the group you hate isn't marginalized? Or maybe it's a hipster thing? Marginalizing immigrants and transvestites is so 20th century. These techies are getting too big for their britches; time to marginalize them.

tommorris 13y ago
Let's see. http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/escalating-violence.html http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/escalatin... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LG... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_tran... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States Ah, but that pales into comparison because someone scrawled "Fuck your startup" in SF.
- cwp 13y ago
  No, it doesn't. Obviously, actual violence is much worse than graffiti, and antipathy towards tech workers hasn't reached that level. But the fact that other people have it worse doesn't make it right. Update: The root of the issue is that San Francisco has a political problem. The city's voters and politicians can't seem to enact policy to deal with the changes that the city is going through. The influx of tech companies into the city recently is the most visible part of those changes, but they're not the largest part. Rather than looking for scapegoats, San Franciscans should be talking about how to lessen the impact of growth on their way of life.
oblique63 13y ago
There is a very real difference between living a well-paid life with some social stigma attached, than having your equal rights denied. Lets not forget that gay marriage is still technically up in limbo right now, and that a large portion of the immigrant community in SF is 'illegal' (whether we like that or not). Quite frankly, being stigmatized for being a techie is not much of a marginalization in comparison. This is largely a privilege/status/class issue, so when talking about marginalization it is important to keep those factors in mind.

by cwp 13y ago

tommorris 13y ago

Let's see. http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/escalating-violence.html http://www.civilrights.org/publications/hatecrimes/escalatin... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LGBT_people_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_violence_against_LG... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_tran... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynching_in_the_United_States Ah, but that pales into comparison because someone scrawled "Fuck your startup" in SF.

cwp 13y ago
No, it doesn't. Obviously, actual violence is much worse than graffiti, and antipathy towards tech workers hasn't reached that level. But the fact that other people have it worse doesn't make it right. Update: The root of the issue is that San Francisco has a political problem. The city's voters and politicians can't seem to enact policy to deal with the changes that the city is going through. The influx of tech companies into the city recently is the most visible part of those changes, but they're not the largest part. Rather than looking for scapegoats, San Franciscans should be talking about how to lessen the impact of growth on their way of life.

oblique63 13y ago

There is a very real difference between living a well-paid life with some social stigma attached, than having your equal rights denied. Lets not forget that gay marriage is still technically up in limbo right now, and that a large portion of the immigrant community in SF is 'illegal' (whether we like that or not). Quite frankly, being stigmatized for being a techie is not much of a marginalization in comparison. This is largely a privilege/status/class issue, so when talking about marginalization it is important to keep those factors in mind.