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The US can guarantee to waive the death penalty in exchange for an extradition. I've read some lawyers think the US is likely to try this.
by uvdiv 13y ago
The US can guarantee to waive the death penalty in exchange for an extradition. I've read some lawyers think the US is likely to try this.
- pests 13y agoFor some reason the fact that he can be facing death just struck me after seeing you mention it.
- lostlogin 13y agoReally? Is this really possible? It's bad enough that this is still on the books, but I'd be pretty damn sure that there would be international relations damage clean up to do for the next decade if that happened.
- sp332 13y agoHigh treason means you sold out your entire country to an enemy. E.g. if a soldier switched sides in a war, or a spy betrayed his own side to the other. It will probably be the last thing to ever have a death penalty, since it harms so many people and the state directly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason
- sliverstorm 13y agoWell, he's being charged with treason isn't he? I know treason doesn't really sound that serious to many people any more, but historically it is one of the "big three" that could earn you the death penalty, even in progressive countries that don't like the death penalty. The others being espionage, and of course, murder.
- caf 13y agoNo, so far he's not been charged with treason. The US allows the death penalty for divulging certain types of classified information - for example information directly concerning nuclear weapons, and communications intelligence. I don't think any progressive countries impose the death penalty at all, but I suppose this depends on what countries you would include in that category.
- sliverstorm 13y agoI don't think any progressive countries impose the death penalty at all Would you consider Canada progressive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanao_Inouye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanao_Inouye I didn't mean it is necessarily like this today, but rather that even progressive countries continued to execute for treason at least partway through their history of progressiveness. It took longer for that piece (death for treason) to die out than most other pieces (like, I dunno, denying women suffrage?). It's sort of an awkward idea to express. I could start listing, but you should really just peruse this list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_convicted_of_treason http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_convicted_of_tre...
- kevbin 13y ago"...For treason turns out to be unique in American law. It is the only crime that the Constitution forbids Congress from defining. It is the only crime to which a court may never accept a confession given to the police. It is the only crime for which restrictions are laid down on how much evidence juries must hear. The Constitution itself underscores that the Founders feared treason law. ...a person has to do one of two things to be a traitor: either levy war or adhere to (form an attachment to, the Supreme Court once said) our enemies, giving them not only aid but also comfort. The two-witness rule has also made treason cases rare in American history." http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324688404578543410828226862.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732468840457854... "…Snowden’s disclosures may have helped the nation’s adversaries (though I’m skeptical as to how much), but treason requires more than that. It is not enough to release important national security information and consort with the nation’s rivals. Snowden may be prosecuted one day. Barring significant new disclosures and developments, it won’t be for treason." http://www.volokh.com/2013/06/19/snowden-did-not-commit-treason/ http://www.volokh.com/2013/06/19/snowden-did-not-commit-trea...
- perlpimp 13y agoYeah federal promise papers are't worth the paper they are written on.
- khuey 13y agoThere's a pretty strong incentive not to lie here (namely that no country would ever extradite anyone based on promises from the US ever again).