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Personally, I still find it insane that people run code on machines they own without being able to examine the source. Many of these programs have access to all

Personally, I still find it insane that people run code on machines they own without being able to examine the source. Many of these programs have access to all of your files as well!

belorn 13y ago
I can understand that people will run code without examine the source for it. What I don't understand is how we at the same time consider bugs and crashes the responsibility of the user, and not something that the developer is liable for. You want to sell me software and refuse to tell me how it work. Fine. Just be dam ready to take responsibility for said software when it breaks my computer. And don't even try to steal my private data. If a hire a cleaner, and the person goes around and steal information from my desk, I don't really care if the hire contract of 40 pages said somewhere "might collect data for improvement of the service". nor do I care if it also say "no liability" when the china/laptop/valuable item crash into the floor by the careless cleaner. On other hand, if you give me the source, I got the tool to verify the code, make sure nothing breaks, and fix problems. Like if I buy a power tool, it really is my responsibility if I hurt myself with it.
Shivetya 13y ago
I never understood this view, why? Because of all the businesses I deal with daily whose systems I do not have source too store my personal data in some form or another. Some of them even store information I do not store at home, hell some of it I am probably not allowed to; medical. I look at it that way, there are far too many sources out of my control to worry about a few programs or more at home. I don't have the time to review all that code even if I had it at home, let alone be able to say with a straight face I understood it all. So I will stay in your insane category, frankly anyone who actually lives by that mantra would never turn a computer on.
- quadrangle 13y ago
  No, full-blown dogmatic Free Software folks just run all Free Software. Please continue to go ahead questioning dogma, as dogma is usually not healthy; but your learned helplessness is equally unhealthy.

Personally, I still find it insane that people run code on machines they own without being able to examine the source. Many of these programs have access to all of your files as well!

belorn 13y ago

I can understand that people will run code without examine the source for it. What I don't understand is how we at the same time consider bugs and crashes the responsibility of the user, and not something that the developer is liable for. You want to sell me software and refuse to tell me how it work. Fine. Just be dam ready to take responsibility for said software when it breaks my computer. And don't even try to steal my private data. If a hire a cleaner, and the person goes around and steal information from my desk, I don't really care if the hire contract of 40 pages said somewhere "might collect data for improvement of the service". nor do I care if it also say "no liability" when the china/laptop/valuable item crash into the floor by the careless cleaner. On other hand, if you give me the source, I got the tool to verify the code, make sure nothing breaks, and fix problems. Like if I buy a power tool, it really is my responsibility if I hurt myself with it.

Shivetya 13y ago

I never understood this view, why? Because of all the businesses I deal with daily whose systems I do not have source too store my personal data in some form or another. Some of them even store information I do not store at home, hell some of it I am probably not allowed to; medical. I look at it that way, there are far too many sources out of my control to worry about a few programs or more at home. I don't have the time to review all that code even if I had it at home, let alone be able to say with a straight face I understood it all. So I will stay in your insane category, frankly anyone who actually lives by that mantra would never turn a computer on.

quadrangle 13y ago
No, full-blown dogmatic Free Software folks just run all Free Software. Please continue to go ahead questioning dogma, as dogma is usually not healthy; but your learned helplessness is equally unhealthy.