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> It's very hard to keep your 'sanity' when US congressmen call for your assassination and you live in a tiny building which you can never leave. Especially wh

> It's very hard to keep your 'sanity' when US congressmen call for your assassination and you live in a tiny building which you can never leave. Especially when your world view is so distorted to begin with.

unimpressive 13y ago
Quite sorry, you're correct, the calls for assassination were from a chap in Canada, and the congressmen were calling for an espionage charge, which is a crime that carries the death penalty as far as I know. Source: Wiki EDIT: And the death penalty would likely be sought by that interpretation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/01/us-embassy-cables-executed-mike-huckabee http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/01/us-embassy-cable...
- mpyne 13y ago
  The U.S. didn't execute Walker or Hanssen, and even Assange is in the minor leagues compared to those two.
- cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
  I love this quote from his lawyer: "It's interesting to note people as high up the American tree as Sarah Palin have called for him to be hunted down by American special forces and assassinated." You gotta be worried when laughing-stock resigned governors of small states are out to get you. Also, what she actually said was just: "Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?"
- cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
  Oh, and I totally was talking about Assange's world view. Not yours (which I don't know about :)).
blueprint 13y ago
When you talk to someone who knows, you should also include the evidence. What concrete things are distorted or wrong with his world view ? If you don't point out the fact in what you speak, we can understand that you don't actually know anything.
aclevernickname 13y ago
Hey, look, a new user, whose only post has the goal of discrediting Assange!
- unimpressive 13y ago
  I just assumed that it was a HN regular who didn't want to take the reputation hit for their 'unpopular' opinion. But yeah, it's a red flag. (I also couldn't tell if they were talking about me or Assange.)
- cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
  Hi! I've actually made a bunch of other posts discrediting Assange, too, but they're under other slamming-fist-against-the-keyboard usernames. :)
  - aclevernickname 13y ago
    So do you at least get paid for it? serious question.
- clicks 13y ago
  This makes me curious. Do you think three-letter agencies are now actively trying to shape public opinion of themselves and their doings by astroturfing popular tech blogs? I recall seeing a document not too long about how the FBI could basically "destroy" a public forum by trolling, insulting, making fun of certain ideas certain principles certain people. In the recent months I've been seeing this on Reddit, -- views that before couldn't be found before about acceptance of surveillance at the cost of liberty, about the goods of laissez-faire capitalistic systems -- you didn't see this much on Reddit before. I'm not sure what to make of it, if it's just new users with different views or if there is some concerted effort by political, or possibly governmental entities to shape things in their favor. That probably sounds unreasonably conspiratorial, but nevertheless consider how effective such a taking would be. Once the public at large is on their side, it's a done deal. Anyway, the great thing about HN is we wouldn't fall prey to such troll tactics. It's good that unsubstantiated attacks, ad hominems, etc. are usually downvoted.

unimpressive 13y ago

Quite sorry, you're correct, the calls for assassination were from a chap in Canada, and the congressmen were calling for an espionage charge, which is a crime that carries the death penalty as far as I know. Source: Wiki EDIT: And the death penalty would likely be sought by that interpretation. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/01/us-embassy-cables-executed-mike-huckabee http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/01/us-embassy-cable...

mpyne 13y ago
The U.S. didn't execute Walker or Hanssen, and even Assange is in the minor leagues compared to those two.
cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
I love this quote from his lawyer: "It's interesting to note people as high up the American tree as Sarah Palin have called for him to be hunted down by American special forces and assassinated." You gotta be worried when laughing-stock resigned governors of small states are out to get you. Also, what she actually said was just: "Why was he not pursued with the same urgency we pursue al Qaeda and Taliban leaders?"
cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
Oh, and I totally was talking about Assange's world view. Not yours (which I don't know about :)).

blueprint 13y ago

When you talk to someone who knows, you should also include the evidence. What concrete things are distorted or wrong with his world view ? If you don't point out the fact in what you speak, we can understand that you don't actually know anything.

aclevernickname 13y ago

Hey, look, a new user, whose only post has the goal of discrediting Assange!

unimpressive 13y ago
I just assumed that it was a HN regular who didn't want to take the reputation hit for their 'unpopular' opinion. But yeah, it's a red flag. (I also couldn't tell if they were talking about me or Assange.)
cbgfdgmhtyju 13y ago
Hi! I've actually made a bunch of other posts discrediting Assange, too, but they're under other slamming-fist-against-the-keyboard usernames. :)
- aclevernickname 13y ago
  So do you at least get paid for it? serious question.
clicks 13y ago
This makes me curious. Do you think three-letter agencies are now actively trying to shape public opinion of themselves and their doings by astroturfing popular tech blogs? I recall seeing a document not too long about how the FBI could basically "destroy" a public forum by trolling, insulting, making fun of certain ideas certain principles certain people. In the recent months I've been seeing this on Reddit, -- views that before couldn't be found before about acceptance of surveillance at the cost of liberty, about the goods of laissez-faire capitalistic systems -- you didn't see this much on Reddit before. I'm not sure what to make of it, if it's just new users with different views or if there is some concerted effort by political, or possibly governmental entities to shape things in their favor. That probably sounds unreasonably conspiratorial, but nevertheless consider how effective such a taking would be. Once the public at large is on their side, it's a done deal. Anyway, the great thing about HN is we wouldn't fall prey to such troll tactics. It's good that unsubstantiated attacks, ad hominems, etc. are usually downvoted.