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Really? Last time I saw a "pro" carry a mac pro to an event was 2006, right after they were released, and it was mainly to show it off. Shortly there after ev

Really? Last time I saw a "pro" carry a mac pro to an event was 2006, right after they were released, and it was mainly to show it off. Shortly there after even he realized how stupid it was an got a Macbook Pro (released the same year). If someone in 2013 is lugging around the basically abandoned Mac Pro line ... I question their sanity. EDIT: The rotting Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line, so unless you did custom upgrades to it, you likely are carrying 50+ pounds + monitor + (other) for worse performance than a 4.5 pound laptop.

Samuel_Michon 13y ago
> Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line Eh, no. A topped out Mac Pro is a LOT more powerful than a topped out MacBook Pro. Let’s compare specs, I think you will see what I mean: MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB 1600MHz memory, 768GB Flash Storage, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M Mac Pro: Two 3.06GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (12 cores), 64GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM, 2048GB Flash storage, ATI Radeon HD 5870
- pavs 13y ago
  I point is I can't think of any single task where a "photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders" (as you mentioned), needs to tug along a workstation to accomplish said task that can't be done by a macbookp pro, or any medium to high end laptop. As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work. Esp, nowadays. That just sounds like a ridiculous thing to do.
  - objclxt 13y ago
    >As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work Live events work, video work, anything where you need >2 external display outs and top performance...you're thinking in terms of the single person, where lugging a Mac Pro around is an inconvenience. I'm thinking of the Mac Pro getting thrown on the back of the truck with the rest of the lighting rig and truss, in which case it's one very small component in a larger travelling system. I used to work in live events, it wasn't unusual to load Mac Pros in with the rig.
    - pavs 13y ago
      > I used to work in live events, it wasn't unusual to load Mac Pros in with the rig. Yeah, maybe 8-10 years ago, but now it would seem ridiculous. Or the person who is moving around with a macpro, is not tech savvy enough to know he has better options. That doesn't mean its a reasonable thing todo. I have seen my share of live events, managed by couple of laptops/MBpro or at worst case scenarios AIOs. I think the new macpro is a case of designer's dictating over practical applications. Most of the time it works well for Apple, but I am afraid, this might not be one of those case. For a seriously pro user, this is nothing more than a toy.
      - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
        > Yeah, maybe 8-10 years ago, but now it would seem ridiculous. No, it still happens and it isn’t ridiculous. Try driving a high resolution video wall with a MBP, especially if realtime rendering is involved. > For a seriously pro user, this is nothing more than a toy. I already gave you an example of what I’m going to be using it for: video. A MBP can edit regular HD footage (like from a 5D) but it simply doesn’t have enough power to edit footage from a professional camera like a RED Scarlet, Arri Alexa, or Canon C500. Fashion photographers have the same problem. For instance, a Leaf Aptus camera shoots at 80MP. That means you get RAW files of 80MB in size. Those are not fun to import or edit on a MacBook Pro. Fashion photographers and their crews don’t wait around for that, they bring Mac Pros.

Samuel_Michon 13y ago

> Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line Eh, no. A topped out Mac Pro is a LOT more powerful than a topped out MacBook Pro. Let’s compare specs, I think you will see what I mean: MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB 1600MHz memory, 768GB Flash Storage, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M Mac Pro: Two 3.06GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (12 cores), 64GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM, 2048GB Flash storage, ATI Radeon HD 5870

pavs 13y ago
I point is I can't think of any single task where a "photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders" (as you mentioned), needs to tug along a workstation to accomplish said task that can't be done by a macbookp pro, or any medium to high end laptop. As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work. Esp, nowadays. That just sounds like a ridiculous thing to do.
- objclxt 13y ago
  >As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work Live events work, video work, anything where you need >2 external display outs and top performance...you're thinking in terms of the single person, where lugging a Mac Pro around is an inconvenience. I'm thinking of the Mac Pro getting thrown on the back of the truck with the rest of the lighting rig and truss, in which case it's one very small component in a larger travelling system. I used to work in live events, it wasn't unusual to load Mac Pros in with the rig.
  - pavs 13y ago
    > I used to work in live events, it wasn't unusual to load Mac Pros in with the rig. Yeah, maybe 8-10 years ago, but now it would seem ridiculous. Or the person who is moving around with a macpro, is not tech savvy enough to know he has better options. That doesn't mean its a reasonable thing todo. I have seen my share of live events, managed by couple of laptops/MBpro or at worst case scenarios AIOs. I think the new macpro is a case of designer's dictating over practical applications. Most of the time it works well for Apple, but I am afraid, this might not be one of those case. For a seriously pro user, this is nothing more than a toy.
    - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
      > Yeah, maybe 8-10 years ago, but now it would seem ridiculous. No, it still happens and it isn’t ridiculous. Try driving a high resolution video wall with a MBP, especially if realtime rendering is involved. > For a seriously pro user, this is nothing more than a toy. I already gave you an example of what I’m going to be using it for: video. A MBP can edit regular HD footage (like from a 5D) but it simply doesn’t have enough power to edit footage from a professional camera like a RED Scarlet, Arri Alexa, or Canon C500. Fashion photographers have the same problem. For instance, a Leaf Aptus camera shoots at 80MP. That means you get RAW files of 80MB in size. Those are not fun to import or edit on a MacBook Pro. Fashion photographers and their crews don’t wait around for that, they bring Mac Pros.