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This is a no-op article. Obviously if there's an arrest out for a person, and the person is not arrested yet - it means that the person is still no found / not

This is a no-op article. Obviously if there's an arrest out for a person, and the person is not arrested yet - it means that the person is still no found / not in custody. Unless the paper meant to point to some kind of collusion/corruption (which it makes no claims of) - there is nothing to see here. Saying "We can't catch person cause he is missing/at large" adds nothing to the discussion.

nknighthb 13y ago
It's actually not clear that there is a warrant for his arrest in Hong Kong, only a request by the US to Hong Kong authorities. Right now I'm guessing Hong Kong and Beijing authorities are both dearly wishing Snowden had chosen somewhere else, and wondering what exactly to do with him. Until they figure that out, staying silent is probably the best thing they can do.
- L4mppu 13y ago
  To me it seems they are going to protect him or at least prevent Us from searching him. After all he showed to the world that US is just as bad in the things as China is and you'd think China wouldn't want to just give him up for it. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42147_Hong_Kong_Wants_to_Keep_Edward_Snowden_as_a_Symbol_of_Chinas_Growing_Power http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42147_Hong_Kong_Want... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10124615/Chinas-state-media-says-extraditing-Edward-Snowden-would-be-unwise.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1012461...
- sbierwagen 13y ago
  Right now I'm guessing Hong Kong and Beijing authorities are both dearly wishing Snowden had chosen somewhere else Flip the actors. What if a Chinese spy had fled to the United States and started to feed the press information on how the Chinese government had hacked essentially every computer system in the US; and in return the Chinese issued an arrest warrant, and demanded that the US send him back to the mainland so he could be tortured to death?
  - nknighthb 13y ago
    If you had a point you were trying to make, it was lost in the absurd hyperbole.
    - altcognito 13y ago
      Where is the absurd hyperbole? That he would be tortured? Look at the case of Manning. Look to what the three NSA whistleblowers said awaited him when he returned. As a US citizen, I want to believe this is hyperbole and nonsense, but the fact is, this is exactly what we should be doing - turning the mirror upon ourselves and performing a real self-examination of who we are as a country.
      - nknighthb 13y ago
        Manning is not dead (hence, not "tortured to death"), and he is also subject to the military justice system, which Snowden is not.
        mark_l_watson 13y ago
        Manning was tortured. Sleep deprivation for many months is recognized as torture under international law, right?
        nknighthb 13y ago
        If you stop looking for a reason to argue and instead read my words with dispassion, you'll realize I never said he wasn't tortured.
    - ncallaway 13y ago
      Indeed. He wouldn't be tortured to death. He would be tortured, then executed.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
  HK, maybe not, they may enjoy the opportunity to create strong precedent behind their autonomy. Here's a paper, it might be interesting. I haven't read it yet. Not even sure it is related. http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/journals/eilr/26/26.2/Ding_w_cover.pdf http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/journals/eilr/26/26.2/Din...
btilly 13y ago
It is worse than that. The article ignores basic facts that have been widely reported elsewhere about the difficulty of doing this particular extradition. It really serves no useful purpose other than to draw clicks, and push for a drumbeat of complaints about Hong Kong and China for domestic political consumption. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/22/edward-snowden-extradition-take-years http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/22/edward-snowden-e... for a more realistic view of the difficulty of extraditing him.

nknighthb 13y ago

It's actually not clear that there is a warrant for his arrest in Hong Kong, only a request by the US to Hong Kong authorities. Right now I'm guessing Hong Kong and Beijing authorities are both dearly wishing Snowden had chosen somewhere else, and wondering what exactly to do with him. Until they figure that out, staying silent is probably the best thing they can do.

L4mppu 13y ago
To me it seems they are going to protect him or at least prevent Us from searching him. After all he showed to the world that US is just as bad in the things as China is and you'd think China wouldn't want to just give him up for it. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42147_Hong_Kong_Wants_to_Keep_Edward_Snowden_as_a_Symbol_of_Chinas_Growing_Power http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42147_Hong_Kong_Want... http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/10124615/Chinas-state-media-says-extraditing-Edward-Snowden-would-be-unwise.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/1012461...
sbierwagen 13y ago
Right now I'm guessing Hong Kong and Beijing authorities are both dearly wishing Snowden had chosen somewhere else Flip the actors. What if a Chinese spy had fled to the United States and started to feed the press information on how the Chinese government had hacked essentially every computer system in the US; and in return the Chinese issued an arrest warrant, and demanded that the US send him back to the mainland so he could be tortured to death?
- nknighthb 13y ago
  If you had a point you were trying to make, it was lost in the absurd hyperbole.
  - altcognito 13y ago
    Where is the absurd hyperbole? That he would be tortured? Look at the case of Manning. Look to what the three NSA whistleblowers said awaited him when he returned. As a US citizen, I want to believe this is hyperbole and nonsense, but the fact is, this is exactly what we should be doing - turning the mirror upon ourselves and performing a real self-examination of who we are as a country.
    - nknighthb 13y ago
      Manning is not dead (hence, not "tortured to death"), and he is also subject to the military justice system, which Snowden is not.
      - mark_l_watson 13y ago
        Manning was tortured. Sleep deprivation for many months is recognized as torture under international law, right?
        nknighthb 13y ago
        If you stop looking for a reason to argue and instead read my words with dispassion, you'll realize I never said he wasn't tortured.
  - ncallaway 13y ago
    Indeed. He wouldn't be tortured to death. He would be tortured, then executed.
fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
HK, maybe not, they may enjoy the opportunity to create strong precedent behind their autonomy. Here's a paper, it might be interesting. I haven't read it yet. Not even sure it is related. http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/journals/eilr/26/26.2/Ding_w_cover.pdf http://www.law.emory.edu/fileadmin/journals/eilr/26/26.2/Din...

btilly 13y ago

It is worse than that. The article ignores basic facts that have been widely reported elsewhere about the difficulty of doing this particular extradition. It really serves no useful purpose other than to draw clicks, and push for a drumbeat of complaints about Hong Kong and China for domestic political consumption. See http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/22/edward-snowden-extradition-take-years http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/22/edward-snowden-e... for a more realistic view of the difficulty of extraditing him.