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Exactly. Which is why the petition matters - it forces a response from the White House. (Obama promised to respond to each petition that reaches 100,000 signatu

Exactly. Which is why the petition matters - it forces a response from the White House. (Obama promised to respond to each petition that reaches 100,000 signatures)

betterunix 13y ago
"Obama promised" After all that has happened, it amazes me that anyone would put any value on a promise made by President Obama.
maratd 13y ago
> it forces a response from the White House. It doesn't force anything. They don't have to respond and they usually don't, when it's not convenient for them. It's just a user-created poll on their website.
ashleyblackmore 13y ago
Obama promised a lot of things (and didn't act upon those promises)!
- pavanred 13y ago
  And was awarded a Nobel prize..
- mkr-hn 13y ago
  One-line posts rarely contribute anything. This is an off-topic jab with no support. Even examples and support for each would not make this post appropriate since this submission is about the petition, not the progress Obama has made on his promises.
  - serf 13y ago
    and you're doing such a good job of policing the rest of the thread , too! The petition site was implemented by Obama's cabinet. It was made as a way to make it seem as if his cabinet was more technologically savyy than others(along with "THE FIRST PRESIDENT WITH A SMARTPHONE!"), and allowed for people to think that the platform would increase transparency in governance. Obama's cabinet decides how to respond to petitions. I think the parent of your reply, although simple in its' phrasing, is pertinent to the discussion at hand. Ones' history does play out in the judgment that people make, and the fact that the President has broken OTHER promises is probably good reason to suspect his intentions in the future (such as the promise of a real reply@100k)
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mscarborough 13y ago
These petitions don't really seem to matter -- there are plenty without a response. Previously, the administration "promised" to respond to all w/ 25,000 signatures. Now it's 100k. What policies have been affected in any way by these things? Takes about 5 seconds to sign one once you have an account, so the results seem to be pretty close to the effort it requires from the public. Voted for Obama twice but he's just as much of a liar as any other politician.
- thenewkid 13y ago
  The petitions are a good way to gather a list of names for analysis at a later date... just saying!
- betterunix 13y ago
  "Voted for Obama twice but he's just as much of a liar as any other politician." Then why did you vote for him? You had a lot of other options: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_independent_presidential_candidates,_2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_...
  - mscarborough 13y ago
    Not to be off-topic but because you asked... Because the only other real options for P/VP in 2008 and 2012 were even scarier to me each time, and I live in a swing state. I also wasn't wowed by the third party candidates (but have voted for third party candidates before).

Exactly. Which is why the petition matters - it forces a response from the White House. (Obama promised to respond to each petition that reaches 100,000 signatures)

betterunix 13y ago

"Obama promised" After all that has happened, it amazes me that anyone would put any value on a promise made by President Obama.

maratd 13y ago

> it forces a response from the White House. It doesn't force anything. They don't have to respond and they usually don't, when it's not convenient for them. It's just a user-created poll on their website.

ashleyblackmore 13y ago

Obama promised a lot of things (and didn't act upon those promises)!

pavanred 13y ago
And was awarded a Nobel prize..
mkr-hn 13y ago
One-line posts rarely contribute anything. This is an off-topic jab with no support. Even examples and support for each would not make this post appropriate since this submission is about the petition, not the progress Obama has made on his promises.
- serf 13y ago
  and you're doing such a good job of policing the rest of the thread , too! The petition site was implemented by Obama's cabinet. It was made as a way to make it seem as if his cabinet was more technologically savyy than others(along with "THE FIRST PRESIDENT WITH A SMARTPHONE!"), and allowed for people to think that the platform would increase transparency in governance. Obama's cabinet decides how to respond to petitions. I think the parent of your reply, although simple in its' phrasing, is pertinent to the discussion at hand. Ones' history does play out in the judgment that people make, and the fact that the President has broken OTHER promises is probably good reason to suspect his intentions in the future (such as the promise of a real reply@100k)
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mscarborough 13y ago

These petitions don't really seem to matter -- there are plenty without a response. Previously, the administration "promised" to respond to all w/ 25,000 signatures. Now it's 100k. What policies have been affected in any way by these things? Takes about 5 seconds to sign one once you have an account, so the results seem to be pretty close to the effort it requires from the public. Voted for Obama twice but he's just as much of a liar as any other politician.

thenewkid 13y ago
The petitions are a good way to gather a list of names for analysis at a later date... just saying!
betterunix 13y ago
"Voted for Obama twice but he's just as much of a liar as any other politician." Then why did you vote for him? You had a lot of other options: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_independent_presidential_candidates,_2012 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_third_party_and_...
- mscarborough 13y ago
  Not to be off-topic but because you asked... Because the only other real options for P/VP in 2008 and 2012 were even scarier to me each time, and I live in a swing state. I also wasn't wowed by the third party candidates (but have voted for third party candidates before).