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Well it's more innovation than the 30 years of beige box we had. The shape and style is nice, and I think innovative in how it allows for better cooling of the

by brador 13y ago

Well it's more innovation than the 30 years of beige box we had. The shape and style is nice, and I think innovative in how it allows for better cooling of the system. But what do I know, I still run xp :P

pavs 13y ago
For a pro computer, where performance is absolutely the most important consideration, do you really care about the shape of the case? Another thing most of people are not bringing up and driving me nuts, is for pro computer, being able to upgrade components at will is one of the most important considerations. From the looks of it, this looks like its not going to be possible with the macpro. With the old Macpro, it was possible to upgrade components. As a matter of fact, being able to upgrade was a big part of the design.
- Samuel_Michon 13y ago
  > For a pro computer, where performance is absolutely the most important consideration, do you really care about the shape of the case? It’s a tiny 10"×6"×6" workstation. That means you can take it anywhere in a backpack. Lots of pros are going to love that, from photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders. The new cooling system (and thus the case’s round shape) is what allows the new Mac Pro to be so ridiculously small.
  - MetaCosm 13y ago
    I love carrying around my computer with no monitor, no mouse, no keyboard, no power cables and no accessories. I like even more if it is in a delicate housing with an exposed and breakable fan. I think I will throw that in my bag! Screw The Macbook pro, I am on board with this new and massively inconvenient alternative. No one is going to carry this around with them.
    - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
      Plenty of pros have to bring Mac Pros to worksites in big flightcases (think live events, shoots on location, outdoors experiments, etc.). The current Mac Pros are ginormous and they weigh over 50 pounds. If they can be replaced by something 1/8th of the size, those people will gladly do so. When I need to edit video on the road, I bring a MacBook Air. Final Cut works alright on it, but it’s nowhere near as fast as on a Mac Pro. I could bring a MacBook Pro on these trips, but I decided that the little gain in speed compared to the MacBook Air is not worth the extra weight and mass (for me). Taking a current Mac Pro with me to a shoot would mean I need help from others (I don’t drive). I can take the new Mac Pro with me on location, and that will make my work a lot more pleasant.
      - MetaCosm 13y ago
        Really? Last time I saw a "pro" carry a mac pro to an event was 2006, right after they were released, and it was mainly to show it off. Shortly there after even he realized how stupid it was an got a Macbook Pro (released the same year). If someone in 2013 is lugging around the basically abandoned Mac Pro line ... I question their sanity. EDIT: The rotting Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line, so unless you did custom upgrades to it, you likely are carrying 50+ pounds + monitor + (other) for worse performance than a 4.5 pound laptop.
        Samuel_Michon 13y ago
        > Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line Eh, no. A topped out Mac Pro is a LOT more powerful than a topped out MacBook Pro. Let’s compare specs, I think you will see what I mean: MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB 1600MHz memory, 768GB Flash Storage, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M Mac Pro: Two 3.06GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (12 cores), 64GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM, 2048GB Flash storage, ATI Radeon HD 5870
        pavs 13y ago
        I point is I can't think of any single task where a "photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders" (as you mentioned), needs to tug along a workstation to accomplish said task that can't be done by a macbookp pro, or any medium to high end laptop. As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work. Esp, nowadays. That just sounds like a ridiculous thing to do.
nolok 13y ago
"Beige box" ? No innovation for the past 30 years ? It saddens me to see people compare a super expensive mac book pro case with the low end $30 cases. I'm not sure if its ignorance or blindness, but you should inform yourself on the high end market for desktop cases (and not just the external look of the case, the internals are what matters). It will cost between $150 and $300 for a really good model, but then again you're comparing it to a mac pro. Companies like Antec, Lian-Li, Noctua, CoolerMaster, Thermaltake, ... Have spent the last decade or so making fans and cases that can cool down a maxed 2/3 GPU SLI running the latest game while still being silent for the high end gaming and power users market.
- bnastic 13y ago
  High end PC cases are mostly rubbish. I've had many of them, I've built many workstations over the years. None of them compare favourably to the (original) Mac Pro case. There has been very little "innovation" in that market segment. None of those companies have anough money or the market big enough to warrant R&D expenses.
  - FireBeyond 13y ago
    I disagree - Lian Li has a V1020 case that I used and loved: http://www.techeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Lian-Li-PC-V1020-mid-tower-PC-computer-case.jpg http://www.techeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Lian-Li-PC... http://www.overclockers.com/lian-li-pc-v1020-case-review http://www.overclockers.com/lian-li-pc-v1020-case-review
beedogs 13y ago
I haven't seen a beige-colored PC in about ten years.

by brador 13y ago

pavs 13y ago

For a pro computer, where performance is absolutely the most important consideration, do you really care about the shape of the case? Another thing most of people are not bringing up and driving me nuts, is for pro computer, being able to upgrade components at will is one of the most important considerations. From the looks of it, this looks like its not going to be possible with the macpro. With the old Macpro, it was possible to upgrade components. As a matter of fact, being able to upgrade was a big part of the design.

Samuel_Michon 13y ago
> For a pro computer, where performance is absolutely the most important consideration, do you really care about the shape of the case? It’s a tiny 10"×6"×6" workstation. That means you can take it anywhere in a backpack. Lots of pros are going to love that, from photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders. The new cooling system (and thus the case’s round shape) is what allows the new Mac Pro to be so ridiculously small.
- MetaCosm 13y ago
  I love carrying around my computer with no monitor, no mouse, no keyboard, no power cables and no accessories. I like even more if it is in a delicate housing with an exposed and breakable fan. I think I will throw that in my bag! Screw The Macbook pro, I am on board with this new and massively inconvenient alternative. No one is going to carry this around with them.
  - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
    Plenty of pros have to bring Mac Pros to worksites in big flightcases (think live events, shoots on location, outdoors experiments, etc.). The current Mac Pros are ginormous and they weigh over 50 pounds. If they can be replaced by something 1/8th of the size, those people will gladly do so. When I need to edit video on the road, I bring a MacBook Air. Final Cut works alright on it, but it’s nowhere near as fast as on a Mac Pro. I could bring a MacBook Pro on these trips, but I decided that the little gain in speed compared to the MacBook Air is not worth the extra weight and mass (for me). Taking a current Mac Pro with me to a shoot would mean I need help from others (I don’t drive). I can take the new Mac Pro with me on location, and that will make my work a lot more pleasant.
    - MetaCosm 13y ago
      Really? Last time I saw a "pro" carry a mac pro to an event was 2006, right after they were released, and it was mainly to show it off. Shortly there after even he realized how stupid it was an got a Macbook Pro (released the same year). If someone in 2013 is lugging around the basically abandoned Mac Pro line ... I question their sanity. EDIT: The rotting Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line, so unless you did custom upgrades to it, you likely are carrying 50+ pounds + monitor + (other) for worse performance than a 4.5 pound laptop.
      - Samuel_Michon 13y ago
        > Mac Pro has long since been eclipsed in performance by the Macbook Pro line Eh, no. A topped out Mac Pro is a LOT more powerful than a topped out MacBook Pro. Let’s compare specs, I think you will see what I mean: MacBook Pro: 2.8GHz Quad-core Intel Core i7, 16GB 1600MHz memory, 768GB Flash Storage, NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M Mac Pro: Two 3.06GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (12 cores), 64GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM, 2048GB Flash storage, ATI Radeon HD 5870
        pavs 13y ago
        I point is I can't think of any single task where a "photographers to DJs to forensic detectives to doctors without borders" (as you mentioned), needs to tug along a workstation to accomplish said task that can't be done by a macbookp pro, or any medium to high end laptop. As a matter of fact, I have never seen or heard of instance of any tugging around their powerful station to do any special purpose work. Esp, nowadays. That just sounds like a ridiculous thing to do.

nolok 13y ago

"Beige box" ? No innovation for the past 30 years ? It saddens me to see people compare a super expensive mac book pro case with the low end $30 cases. I'm not sure if its ignorance or blindness, but you should inform yourself on the high end market for desktop cases (and not just the external look of the case, the internals are what matters). It will cost between $150 and $300 for a really good model, but then again you're comparing it to a mac pro. Companies like Antec, Lian-Li, Noctua, CoolerMaster, Thermaltake, ... Have spent the last decade or so making fans and cases that can cool down a maxed 2/3 GPU SLI running the latest game while still being silent for the high end gaming and power users market.

bnastic 13y ago
High end PC cases are mostly rubbish. I've had many of them, I've built many workstations over the years. None of them compare favourably to the (original) Mac Pro case. There has been very little "innovation" in that market segment. None of those companies have anough money or the market big enough to warrant R&D expenses.
- FireBeyond 13y ago
  I disagree - Lian Li has a V1020 case that I used and loved: http://www.techeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Lian-Li-PC-V1020-mid-tower-PC-computer-case.jpg http://www.techeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Lian-Li-PC... http://www.overclockers.com/lian-li-pc-v1020-case-review http://www.overclockers.com/lian-li-pc-v1020-case-review

beedogs 13y ago

I haven't seen a beige-colored PC in about ten years.