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Somewhat ironic (or perhaps disturbing is more appropriate) the recent posting on HN [1] of the historic CIA review of assassinations, in which staged car accid
by ghshephard 13y ago
Somewhat ironic (or perhaps disturbing is more appropriate) the recent posting on HN [1] of the historic CIA review of assassinations, in which staged car accidents were fairly prominent.
This line from that post comes to mind,
"If the subject's personal habits make it feasible, alcohol may be used [2 words excised] to prepare him for a contrived accident of any kind."
[1] http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB4/ciaguat2.html
- l33tbro 13y agoHow could it be staged, exactly? The guy was flying down Melrose. The engine of his Merc flew like 100 feet from site of impact. I just don't see how it could be staged.
- dakrisht 13y agoFlying down Highland. And that was a transmission, not an engine.
- l33tbro 13y agoRe: Engine. http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_crash_engine_flew_speeding_recovery.php http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2013/06/michael_hastings_... Obviously crashed on Highland. CCTV of of him flying on Melrose ... link evades me right now.
- dakrisht 13y agoCheck my post above for the flying by link... It's a transmission connected to the engine. Forgot this car has a small motor. But they're both out there, laying 200 feet out. Strange.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y agoIt is both. It would be much harder to separate the engine from the transmission in a collision.
- sanukcm 13y agohttp://www.autosec.org/pubs/cars-oakland2010.pdf http://www.autosec.org/pubs/cars-oakland2010.pdf [pdf] http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2010-05/researchers-hack-car-computers-shutting-down-brakes-engine-and-more http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/2010-05/researchers-hack-...
- mr_spothawk 13y agoI came to say the same.
- stfu 13y agoMy suggestion would be to trigger the system once a car reaches for example 50mph, e.g. deactivate brakes and push the car to the maximum speed. Driver freaks out, and loosing control at one point therefore making it actually look like somebody lost control over the vehicle. But I have no idea on the fire "aspect".
- Goladus 13y agoThe main question I have with this theory is the risk that the car would lose control and crash into a nearby house instead of a tree in the median.
- jfoster 13y agoAnd?
- Goladus 13y agoThis is the stupidest response to a comment I have ever received on Hacker News.
- jfoster 13y agoPerhaps I should've been clearer. My point was that if they don't mind killing a journalist, why would they mind if a small number of innocents die as well? With that clarification, does it make more sense? If not, why?
- Goladus 13y agoPerhaps I should've been clearer. It's also incredibly disrespectful. Posting "and?" requires zero effort from you and contributes nothing. If I want to continue the discussion I have go over my comment and guess what the problem was. I have to describe what I guessed your argument might be before I restate what I said. I admit that my original comment was not particularly well-written or insightful, but I think if it it was worth a response it should get more than a single punctuated word. My point was that if they don't mind killing a journalist, why would they mind if a small number of innocents die as well? Probably because they don't feel the journalist is innocent. And practically speaking, you're probably a lot less likely to get away with murder when there are bystander victims.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y agoSpike the guy's drink. Send him a fake message to get him excited. Something from a girlfriend. "Help, someone is in my apartment. I'm hiding in the closet." or just "Help! Come immediately!"