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hey, non-US citizen here. assuming you're a US citizen based on your "outrage". the point of your defence budget (how large is it again) is to project power th

hey, non-US citizen here. assuming you're a US citizen based on your "outrage". the point of your defence budget (how large is it again) is to project power through the military and intelligence services. it is ASTOUNDING that only now you seem to have realized what the US intelligennce apparatus is doing. of course they are collecting all the data, they are basically replicating google to be able to search within digital data. maybe only on foreigners, but what kind of stupid distinction is that? we have a found an al-kaida member, but he is US so hands off? welcome to the rest of the world. ever travelled? your data is one of many intelligence databases. i am human being, but somehow it is ok for you to spend gobs of money on monitoring ME, but once you realize it might affect YOU you suddenly get "outraged". seriously, what DID you THINK all those intelligence services with multi-billion budgets were DOING? looking forward to the protest by US neckbeards around the country. hope time-warner produces enough guy fawkes masks, should raise the price too. USA USA USA.

zanny 13y ago
Myself and plenty of other US citizens and residents understand the imperialistic tyrrany of the fed. The problem is that 90% of the population isn't engaged, is brainwashed by national news networks, and is complacent in their lives eating McDonalds and watching Desperate Housewives. They accept being exploited and the atrocities they vote in with their amazing public service of going to a polling place for 10 minutes every 2 or 4 years (and they never vote for their local mayors or judges). The only way anything would truly change in the USA is if that massive body that spans 2 deviations of income in both directions of the bell curve lost their ability to keep fattening themselves up or if they tv went out.
kimlelly 13y ago
"...your defence budget (how large is it again)" It's about the size of the 10 biggest following countries COMBINED! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_e... That is YOUR hard earned tax money at work AGAINST YOU.
- timdev2 13y ago
  >> hey, non-US citizen here. > That is YOUR hard earned tax money at work AGAINST YOU. The guy you're yelling at is a non-US citizen who's point is "for the love of god, you ignorant american, how did you not see what's been happening until now?" It's completely stupid that this is even a topic on HN, but the worst part is the amount of mindless shitposting going on. I mean, you just replied to a person who starts off with a disclaimer about being a not-american, and your response culimates in righteous but misplaced indignation. Fooey.
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    - timdev2 13y ago
      This is a threaded discussion platform. If you're going to make an impassioned "me too" sort of reply, it's best to respect the context and make that clear. After all, this is the internet.
- o0-0o 13y ago
  Black projects are not listed in a public budget. The premise of it being tax money is also suspect. The US government does not get all of the money from taxes despite the popular notion. I agree with your gist however; A modern day human sacrifice.
  - avn2109 13y ago
    Could you list some of the other sources of government funding? The only one I can think of is the alleged CIA drug trafficking scandals from decades past.
    - kragen 13y ago
      Illegal arms trafficking, which was somewhat more thoroughly proven than the CIA making a profit from its illegal drug trafficking. Its involvement, however, was pretty cut-and-dried, and goes far beyond being an "alleged scandal".

zanny 13y ago

Myself and plenty of other US citizens and residents understand the imperialistic tyrrany of the fed. The problem is that 90% of the population isn't engaged, is brainwashed by national news networks, and is complacent in their lives eating McDonalds and watching Desperate Housewives. They accept being exploited and the atrocities they vote in with their amazing public service of going to a polling place for 10 minutes every 2 or 4 years (and they never vote for their local mayors or judges). The only way anything would truly change in the USA is if that massive body that spans 2 deviations of income in both directions of the bell curve lost their ability to keep fattening themselves up or if they tv went out.

kimlelly 13y ago

"...your defence budget (how large is it again)" It's about the size of the 10 biggest following countries COMBINED! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_e... That is YOUR hard earned tax money at work AGAINST YOU.

timdev2 13y ago
>> hey, non-US citizen here. > That is YOUR hard earned tax money at work AGAINST YOU. The guy you're yelling at is a non-US citizen who's point is "for the love of god, you ignorant american, how did you not see what's been happening until now?" It's completely stupid that this is even a topic on HN, but the worst part is the amount of mindless shitposting going on. I mean, you just replied to a person who starts off with a disclaimer about being a not-american, and your response culimates in righteous but misplaced indignation. Fooey.
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  - timdev2 13y ago
    This is a threaded discussion platform. If you're going to make an impassioned "me too" sort of reply, it's best to respect the context and make that clear. After all, this is the internet.
o0-0o 13y ago
Black projects are not listed in a public budget. The premise of it being tax money is also suspect. The US government does not get all of the money from taxes despite the popular notion. I agree with your gist however; A modern day human sacrifice.
- avn2109 13y ago
  Could you list some of the other sources of government funding? The only one I can think of is the alleged CIA drug trafficking scandals from decades past.
  - kragen 13y ago
    Illegal arms trafficking, which was somewhat more thoroughly proven than the CIA making a profit from its illegal drug trafficking. Its involvement, however, was pretty cut-and-dried, and goes far beyond being an "alleged scandal".