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It really saddens me as someone born in the US, that the ideals that are embodied by our constitution are never abstracted (at least by our supposed leaders) to
by cinquemb 13y ago
It really saddens me as someone born in the US, that the ideals that are embodied by our constitution are never abstracted (at least by our supposed leaders) to possibly being able to be applied to people outside of the lines drawn by men in our maps.
And while it may be true that under current legal statutes x amendment does not apply to y citizens of z countries, hearing it used in arguments to justify the treatment of fellow human beings contrary to the ideals we seek to reinforce throughout the world and of ourselves is pretty repulsive.
- codex 13y agoAnother perspective is that the rules of war are different from the rules of Main Street, USA. The NSA is on a continual war footing. Its job is to help defend the United States from its enemies. Until war (and terrorism) is abolished, there will always be behaviors which are allowed in war but not in peacetime. For example, warrants are not needed to kill a soldier on the battlefield, nor to search them.
- ferdo 13y ago> The NSA is on a continual war footing. Its job is to help defend the United States from its enemies. The NSA appears to perceive the people it's tasked with the defending - American citizens - as an enemy. It's the natural result of all centralized surveillance states.
- cinquemb 13y agoThat's why they outsource it in part to wonderful p̶r̶o̶f̶i̶t̶e̶e̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ patriotic corporations like Booz Allen Hamilton and their private equity owners :D