>There is obviously a world of difference between verbal aggressing and physical aggressing. That's cute, honey. Why don't you leave the real talk to us men?

>There is obviously a world of difference between verbal aggressing and physical aggressing. That's cute, honey. Why don't you leave the real talk to us men? I hope you see my point, but to make it more clear: boundaries are boundaries, and disrespect is disrespect. You are making an argument about magnitude, and I am making an argument about conflict. Now I'm going to break a rule about respecting victims, and I hope you respect that it's for the purposes of argument: >In a crowded bus, a guy continually rubbed his hand against my hand despite my trying to move away and escape him. So shout at him. Lay into him like you're laying into me ("you're a bad person if you think it's acceptable"--as if I even said such a thing!) and make it devastatingly clear that you won't stand for it. You don't owe anything to the status quo, the peace of mind of other people on the bus, the rules of decorum, _anything._ It's not a solution because it's unrealistic due to inherited gender roles blah blah (and don't lay into me about _that_, Ms. "you boys"), but I really wish more women were just _loud_ about things like this. I _like_ loud women.