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>One that isn't close to being to process images the way rats can. Can you justify that? CV systems can track motion, detect objects, do OCR, etc. I don't kn
by endtime 18y ago
>One that isn't close to being to process images the way rats can.
Can you justify that? CV systems can track motion, detect objects, do OCR, etc. I don't know much about rats, but I'd imagine that modern CV systems are more powerful than rats.
>An animal can learn a new gait if it loses a leg. As far as I'm aware, no robot can do that. I was giving examples of what mice can do, not of consciousness.
Uh, okay. If you want to see organic-looking gait, look up Big Dog. Here's a video, deep linked to a part where it stumbles on ice and regains its balance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJQ0zNNOM#t=1m25s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHJJQ0zNNOM#t=1m25s. In general, neural nets often exhibit organic-seeming behavior. In any case, I don't think that mammalian joint structure (which, and I'm just guessing here, is probably what creates the kind of motion we think of as organic) has anything to do with consciousness.
>Also, our architecture. The point I've heard Searle argue (not the Chinese Room, I guess) is that the computers we build now don't have an architecture are as likely to simulate consciousness, given the constraints of the universe, as a convoluted system of telegraphs.
Well, we could build different hardware, but it seems much more interesting to simulate a mind in software, in which case architecture doesn't matter.
>Let me give my point another shot - deconstruction of consciousness is possible, but not in a way which can be simulated by our current machine architecture.
Why not? Sure, our processors are a bit slow, but that's not really an argument for fundamental impossibility.
>Do you suppose a brain is a DFA? Which do you suppose has more states - all of the computers in the world, or a single mouse brain?
Not that it's especially meaningful, but I'd imagine all the computers in the world do. To try and give you a better answer, I googled "number of neurons in a mouse brain" and the first result was "IBM's BlueGene L supercomputer simulates half a mouse brain" from 2007: http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/29/ibms-bluegene-l-supercomputer-simulates-half-a-mouse-brain/ http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/29/ibms-bluegene-l-supercomp...