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Is it misogynist to learn what women like in a partner and attempt to be that? Isn't that making a world more according to women's preferences? How is that "hat

Is it misogynist to learn what women like in a partner and attempt to be that? Isn't that making a world more according to women's preferences? How is that "hatred of women"? If the author is wrong, and you write a better manual, many men struggling with the modern dating world will gladly buy your more effective book. But we aren't arguing fact, are we? We're arguing religion.

lewispollard 13y ago
Yes, because women, funnily enough, are individual human beings with their own tastes and desires.
- newnewnew 13y ago
  Women are, funnily enough, female members of the species homo sapiens and there is a lot of scientific evidence on what they find attractive in a potential mate.
  - lewispollard 13y ago
    Show me this evidence. If that is really your attitude towards women then it's no wonder you feel the need to read a book like this. Try a little respect for your fellow people, you'll have much more fulfilling experiences with women if you stop believing what science tells you and actually take an interest in the people around you
    - newnewnew 13y ago
      Sure - you're three times as likely to get a woman's number if you ask while walking a dog: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201007/more-reasons-love-dogs-they-promote-prosocial-behaviors-and-they-attra http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201007... A light touch on the forearm also increases the chances of getting a number: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15534510701316177 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15534510701316177 That's a start for ya. There's nothing this society hates more than beta males. Your comment confirms it. God forbid a guy ain't a natural with women and needs some advice. He's probably deformed, deranged, and dangerous.
      - lewispollard 13y ago
        My problem isn't with people needing advice to get laid, god knows I was terrible with women in my youth. What I don't appreciate is guides that focus entirely on how to get women into bed via what is effectively trickery and misogyny. It should be teaching fundamental respect, social awareness, equality, consent, self-appreciation - these are the qualities that will allow you to form lasting connections with people (and not just women). Yeah, these tricks might help you get a drunk girl into bed but she'll probably regret it afterwards and so will you!
    - Crake 13y ago
      >stop believing what science tells you You can't be serious. Someone on Hacker News advocating not to believe in science? Really?
      - lewispollard 13y ago
        Preaching to the wrong crowd. I love science, but I can't stand it when people try to apply 'logic and reeeason' to social concepts like this one. It's pseudoscience at best. We're human, not vulcan, after all...
        Crake 13y ago
        Well, the nice thing about science and nature is that they keep working whether or not you think they're applicable.
        lewispollard 13y ago
        If the scientific method applied to everyone's personal social problems and stances, why would anyone need this book?

lewispollard 13y ago

Yes, because women, funnily enough, are individual human beings with their own tastes and desires.

newnewnew 13y ago
Women are, funnily enough, female members of the species homo sapiens and there is a lot of scientific evidence on what they find attractive in a potential mate.
- lewispollard 13y ago
  Show me this evidence. If that is really your attitude towards women then it's no wonder you feel the need to read a book like this. Try a little respect for your fellow people, you'll have much more fulfilling experiences with women if you stop believing what science tells you and actually take an interest in the people around you
  - newnewnew 13y ago
    Sure - you're three times as likely to get a woman's number if you ask while walking a dog: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201007/more-reasons-love-dogs-they-promote-prosocial-behaviors-and-they-attra http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/homo-consumericus/201007... A light touch on the forearm also increases the chances of getting a number: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15534510701316177 http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15534510701316177 That's a start for ya. There's nothing this society hates more than beta males. Your comment confirms it. God forbid a guy ain't a natural with women and needs some advice. He's probably deformed, deranged, and dangerous.
    - lewispollard 13y ago
      My problem isn't with people needing advice to get laid, god knows I was terrible with women in my youth. What I don't appreciate is guides that focus entirely on how to get women into bed via what is effectively trickery and misogyny. It should be teaching fundamental respect, social awareness, equality, consent, self-appreciation - these are the qualities that will allow you to form lasting connections with people (and not just women). Yeah, these tricks might help you get a drunk girl into bed but she'll probably regret it afterwards and so will you!
  - Crake 13y ago
    >stop believing what science tells you You can't be serious. Someone on Hacker News advocating not to believe in science? Really?
    - lewispollard 13y ago
      Preaching to the wrong crowd. I love science, but I can't stand it when people try to apply 'logic and reeeason' to social concepts like this one. It's pseudoscience at best. We're human, not vulcan, after all...
      - Crake 13y ago
        Well, the nice thing about science and nature is that they keep working whether or not you think they're applicable.
        lewispollard 13y ago
        If the scientific method applied to everyone's personal social problems and stances, why would anyone need this book?