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A fully furnished, spacious 1 bedroom apartment int Tapei city will cost you TWD13,000 (approx $450). A similar apartment in New York City will cost you the nor

A fully furnished, spacious 1 bedroom apartment int Tapei city will cost you TWD13,000 (approx $450). A similar apartment in New York City will cost you the north of $1,500. Same can be said for the cost of food,transport and other living expenses. Expecting employees to pay the $80,000 and over they are paying to a New Yorker , which has high cost of living to a developer in Tapei city, which as relatively cheap cost of living doesn't make sense. And by the way because they are paying a developer $20,000 doesn't mean he's a bad developer. it is reflective of the economic condition and standard of living the developer finds himself. I can bet you there are developers earning the amount you are deriding so much that have comfortable saving account and there are $80,000 in debt (all other things being equal)

victorlin 13y ago
I didn't derides anyone. What I want to say is that when employers can't afford reasonable salary for developers, they cannot find any good ones, even they found ones, it's only matter of time they will leave. The problem here is more than salary, it is about attitude, employers trend to treat employees as cost rather than valuable asset. When people are treated like disposable tools, nobody would stay.
- criley2 13y ago
  Why isn't that salary reasonable? It seems like you're being ethnocentric and judging that salary based on your own home and your own salary. When confronted with cost of living data for Taiwan, you pivot and say that people are treated like disposable tools -- but how is this different than 90% of IT in America? Not everyone works for a progressive, modern startup, and the trenches of American Corporate IT aren't known for their mid-20 something's hipster cultures like Google et al. Very much a cold calculation where people are treated like assets.

victorlin 13y ago

I didn't derides anyone. What I want to say is that when employers can't afford reasonable salary for developers, they cannot find any good ones, even they found ones, it's only matter of time they will leave. The problem here is more than salary, it is about attitude, employers trend to treat employees as cost rather than valuable asset. When people are treated like disposable tools, nobody would stay.

criley2 13y ago
Why isn't that salary reasonable? It seems like you're being ethnocentric and judging that salary based on your own home and your own salary. When confronted with cost of living data for Taiwan, you pivot and say that people are treated like disposable tools -- but how is this different than 90% of IT in America? Not everyone works for a progressive, modern startup, and the trenches of American Corporate IT aren't known for their mid-20 something's hipster cultures like Google et al. Very much a cold calculation where people are treated like assets.