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I think the greatest thing to take out of the presentation is... 1. The Tesla driver does NOT need to get out of the car (screw rain and bugs). 2. It IS a rea

I think the greatest thing to take out of the presentation is... 1. The Tesla driver does NOT need to get out of the car (screw rain and bugs). 2. It IS a reasonable time (no need to sit in a diner and wait) 3. The mileage limitation is becoming less limiting (no different than making sure a long trip has a gas station on the way).

lttlrck 13y ago
Still need to get out to clean the windshield. Whats the big deal with getting out anyway?
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  I only brought that up since here where I'm at in NorCal, there were tons of bugs when I filed my tank recently. Also if you have kids in the car, it's convenient, it's like asking why are there drive thru's at restaurants, car washes, and atm machines. Not sure that #1 applies to everyone...I remember on a road trip, in Oregon it's against the law for me to fill my OWN tank. EDIT: Added wife's 2 cents
  - carbocation 13y ago
    I actively avoid running low on fuel in New Jersey (compulsory full-service stations). I don't mind getting out of my car to get gas; the station attendant is doing nothing of value for me. I'm neither done faster not is the fuel in some way better than if I filled the car myself. In contrast, I do see the value in having a battery exchange (it's something they can do better for me than I could do myself). In that case, not getting out of the car is still essentialy a non-factor for me, but it does end up being a tiny perk.
    - mkopinsky 13y ago
      Living in NYC, I actively aim to run low on fuel in New Jersey so I can save $.50 a gallon.
      - carbocation 13y ago
        We are both rational people, I see. (I was usually driving from Baltimore to NYC or destinations further north.)
  - stcredzero 13y ago
    You can take a kid full of cars to a highway stop and get back on the road in under 30 minutes? I have a hard time doing that with a car full of adults. (Though, to be fair, the cases I'm thinking of involved musicians.)
- gmurphy 13y ago
  It's not so much the getting out, as the not having to do anything - you get 90 seconds of HN time!

lttlrck 13y ago

Still need to get out to clean the windshield. Whats the big deal with getting out anyway?

quackerhacker 13y ago
I only brought that up since here where I'm at in NorCal, there were tons of bugs when I filed my tank recently. Also if you have kids in the car, it's convenient, it's like asking why are there drive thru's at restaurants, car washes, and atm machines. Not sure that #1 applies to everyone...I remember on a road trip, in Oregon it's against the law for me to fill my OWN tank. EDIT: Added wife's 2 cents
- carbocation 13y ago
  I actively avoid running low on fuel in New Jersey (compulsory full-service stations). I don't mind getting out of my car to get gas; the station attendant is doing nothing of value for me. I'm neither done faster not is the fuel in some way better than if I filled the car myself. In contrast, I do see the value in having a battery exchange (it's something they can do better for me than I could do myself). In that case, not getting out of the car is still essentialy a non-factor for me, but it does end up being a tiny perk.
  - mkopinsky 13y ago
    Living in NYC, I actively aim to run low on fuel in New Jersey so I can save $.50 a gallon.
    - carbocation 13y ago
      We are both rational people, I see. (I was usually driving from Baltimore to NYC or destinations further north.)
- stcredzero 13y ago
  You can take a kid full of cars to a highway stop and get back on the road in under 30 minutes? I have a hard time doing that with a car full of adults. (Though, to be fair, the cases I'm thinking of involved musicians.)
gmurphy 13y ago
It's not so much the getting out, as the not having to do anything - you get 90 seconds of HN time!