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>not just a "next-generation" one like VP9 and HEVC. VP9 is not the same generation as HEVC. It's more comparable with H.264. >VP9 managed to catch-up with HE

>not just a "next-generation" one like VP9 and HEVC. VP9 is not the same generation as HEVC. It's more comparable with H.264. >VP9 managed to catch-up with HEVC after only 2 years of work Do you mean in terms of how far along with standardisation/development they are? VP9 is ~6 months behind, although that's not really that significant in video standard timescales. If you mean quality then VP9 encoders have not caught up with x264, and that in itself may take years, if they ever do. We were promised that VP8 would get a lot better over time, but it didn't because they basically gave up and concentrated on VP9. If they do the same again and start looking to VP10 then VP9 will flounder. Video codecs can't gain adoption with such short churn times. The reason there was so little time between VP8 and VP9 is that VP8 was technically so far behind it never had any chance of adoption. MPEG-LA are not going to release a new codec in 2 years time. HEVC will probably only just be seeing mature implementations and widespread adoption by then. There is still a hell of a lot of MPEG-2 tech out there and H.264 has been out for a decade.

ZeroGravitas 13y ago
"Next-gen", as it is in consoles, is derived from the traditional business models where things go in 5-10 year cycles based around fixed hardware that falls in cost over time. Your new PC isn't called next-gen, even if it's much more powerful than your old console. And even if you look at the longer timescales of PC, it's hard/subjective to choose a line in the sand for one "generation" to transition to the next. So I don't think VP9 is, wants to be, or needs to be "next-gen" by that kind of definition. Having said that, it's a sufficiently "next-gen" bitstream (basically it assumes you have a certain amount of hardware oomph available) that its visual output can be better than x264 already in most ordinary videos, even with an encoder that could be described as "worse" in many ways. x264 may be a better fighter "pound for pound" but it's clearly in a different weight class.

ZeroGravitas 13y ago

"Next-gen", as it is in consoles, is derived from the traditional business models where things go in 5-10 year cycles based around fixed hardware that falls in cost over time. Your new PC isn't called next-gen, even if it's much more powerful than your old console. And even if you look at the longer timescales of PC, it's hard/subjective to choose a line in the sand for one "generation" to transition to the next. So I don't think VP9 is, wants to be, or needs to be "next-gen" by that kind of definition. Having said that, it's a sufficiently "next-gen" bitstream (basically it assumes you have a certain amount of hardware oomph available) that its visual output can be better than x264 already in most ordinary videos, even with an encoder that could be described as "worse" in many ways. x264 may be a better fighter "pound for pound" but it's clearly in a different weight class.