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Apple now shows iOS usage share on App Store
- Apoptygma 13y agoShame they only showed the major versions
- Doro22 13y agoyeah agree man
- interpol_p 13y agoAgreed. There is an incredibly annoying bug with iOS 6.0.1 that causes a crash when using the photo picker or game center in a specific orientation. And the workaround requires supporting all orientations and editing every view controller in your source. Knowing how many people are actually affected by this would be incredibly helpful.
- HaloZero 13y agoDid anyone else notice? Header: iOS 6.1 and Xcode 4.6.2 Text : Make sure your devices are running iOS 6.1 and your Mac has Xcode 4.6.1 And I'm currently on Xcode 4.6.3 nitpicking, just kinda amusing.
- Luyt 13y agoXcode 4 also requires Lion or Mountain Lion. I wonder what percentage of apple computers are still running Snow Leopard (or earlier).
- coob 13y agoI can't update to 4.6.3 because I'm running Mavericks, I get the 'your OS is too new' dialogue. Xcode 5 DP is nice, if a bit crashy.
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- rimantas 13y agoI can't wait to switch to XCode 5, so many goodies.
- nimeshneema 13y agoThere isn't any equivalent usage share data for OS X provided by Apple (AFAIK). The presented statistics for market share is based on App Store downloads from iOS devices and similar criterion used to judge OS X install base might not be highly reliable as there are other ways to get apps(applications) installed on OS X.
- nimeshneema 13y agoXcode 4.6.3 is just a bug fix release and it came out just a week ago. At the time this page was updated, 4.6.2 must have been the latest version.
- kmonsen 13y agoAs measured by the App store. I would be surprised if the general population is the same distribution. People who go often to the app store probably update more often. Still for developers it is a relevant number.
- batiudrami 13y agoAt the same time, for a developer, those who never go on the app store aren't really important. But I agree, it is likely misrepresenting actual figures.
- interpol_p 13y agoThat's likely the reason it's hosted on developer.apple.com and not their consumer-facing site. (It's also the same way Google measures their OS usage data, also hosted on their developer site.)
- mh- 13y agoI have this same argument about the Android numbers presented by Google. But as another reply to your post already pointed out, these are the numbers that are probably the most relevant to a would-be app creator.
- saurik 13y agoThe problem is that this biases the statistics due to the 14-day window: everyone who buys a new iPhone goes to the App Store in order to download some "staple apps", but after the unitial setup a lot of users might only go to the App Store every three weeks (for example), meaning that newly purchased devices will be over-represented in the statics, and they all have iOS 6. Honestly, though: even correcting for this new-device bias, this still isn't what you care about... normal users don't sit around browsing the App Store or the Android Market... they open the app when they are interested in a specific download because of some external sale having occurred. Your market as a developer are "people with a device", not "people weird enough to try searching on their device". Regardless, though, yeah: the reason Apple is showing this statistic is because it is the identical metric reported by Google, and they were making a big deal about these numbers during the WWDC keynote, even to the extent of pointing out that Google had changed the metric in this way (to Market visits) was cheating... comparing, though, the like metrics isn't that bad.
- coryl 13y agoFor non-apple devs: 93% of users are on iOS 6, 6% iOS 5, 1% other older.
- robin_reala 13y agoYou can get to this page even as a non-registered developer.
- coryl 13y agoWeird, it prompted me to log in.
- danielsamuels 13y agoYeah, but you can just use a standard Apple account, you don't need to be a developer.
- kamjam 13y agoI was able to see it without any login prompt, I don't have any Apple account whatsoever.
- PiersonBro 13y agoThis is clearly a follow up to the marketing push to developers that began at WWDC. An unsurprising addition given the fact that there's really no solution to the iOS 7 UI revamp without making Apps iOS 7 only.
- pilif 13y agoIt was my impression from the sessions that applications which use mostly system UI can be done in a way that works (and looks nice) on both OSes by relying on AutoLayout. And if you made a completely custom UI, it'll look as foreign to iOS7 as it looks to iOS6 now.
- smackfu 13y agoThe trouble is the people in the middle. They used system UI where possible, but then rolled their own where Apple didn't have a good solution. If you recompile those apps against iOS 7 SDK, your app looks like junk, and it's a lot of work to fix it. If it's not a super-profitable app, are you really going to go back and get new art done, or are you just going to keep it the same, by using old XCode or something. The other trouble is that a lot of devs don't use AutoLayout, because it's historically been very hard to get working right. And transitioning your app to it hasn't had many benefits in the past.
- peteretep 13y agoCityMapper have recently launched a new UI which is very ios7. Looks great on ios6
- HNLogInShit 13y agoThat should be "iOS version share". iOS usage share, at least in the iOS App Store, is always 100%.
- dataxpress 13y agoWhen you have a million users, 70,000 of them is a pretty big number to neglect. edit: numbers
- rimantas 13y agoOr other way around, cost to support 7% of your users may be to high to neglect. Sometimes it makes sense to spend that time and effort on the rest 93%.
- hmottestad 13y agoNeglect might not be the right term. Usually older devices are on older OS because they can't update. If they can update and haven't then it will probably be because they don't know how or because they don't want to. If your app needs features in iOS 6 to run, then so be it. If not then make it runnable on iOS 5 and 4. If your app used to work on iOS 4, but some new features require iOS 5, then your old customers won't get any more updates but should still be able to use the app. Those stuck on iOS 4 wanting to buy your app won't be able to.
- gurkendoktor 13y agoCase in point - iTunes is Apple's only OS X app which still officially supports OS X 10.6. If there's money to be made, Apple suddenly doesn't mind the maintenance :)
- Samuel_Michon 13y agoPart of that 7% are people who choose not to upgrade, they aren’t neglected. iOS 6 runs on devices as old as 4 years. Meanwhile, every day new Android models are launched that come with years old system software and will never see an update.
- virtualritz 13y agoIs this the US app store or regional app stores, all over the planet, averaged?
- nimeshneema 13y agoIt's highly likely that it's all over the planet, averaged. It makes more sense that way.
- junto 13y agoI've left my iPad on iOS 5, because I still assume that I'll lose the Google Maps integration if I upgrade. Is that assumption still correct?
- jvzr 13y agoThere is a Google Maps app for iPhone and iPad. It's better than the old one, but isn't as integrated as before (i.e. it isn't the default map app).
- sluukkonen 13y agoSmall correction: the iPad version isn't out yet, but apparently they're releasing it this summer.
- Aqua_Geek 13y agoDepends on what you mean by "integration." Google Maps is now a standalone app available (from Google) in the App Store, but it does have quite a different interface from Maps on iOS 5.
- junto 13y agoI'm not sure how the Google Maps integration works per iOS6 to be honest. All I know is that Google Maps opens whe I click on "view in maps app" in a variety of third party apps I've installed (real estate apps for example). I suspect that should I upgrade to iOS6, those apps would start opening Apple's maps, and I would severely miss the street view. That concern is currently putting me off, and I see no easy way to downgrade back to iOS5 should I'm forced to use Apple's maps app.
- nimeshneema 13y agoGoogle announced of it's plans to roll out it's Maps app for iPad during summer 2013 http://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/15/google-shows-off-upcoming-map-changes-announces-ipad-app/ http://www.macrumors.com/2013/05/15/google-shows-off-upcomin...
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- rpc_was_taken 13y agoI wonder how many of this 6% are non-updated developer testing iphones/ipads.
- interpol_p 13y agoI suspect they are mostly iPad 1 devices. My iPad 1 still sees regular use.
- Samuel_Michon 13y ago6% is 36 million devices. There are less than a million iOS developers.