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> This shouldn't be a surprise at all. Using Tor hides your location, so they assume you are foreign unless proven otherwise. That covers Tor, but not the rest

by jlgreco 13y ago

> This shouldn't be a surprise at all. Using Tor hides your location, so they assume you are foreign unless proven otherwise. That covers Tor, but not the rest... > As a European, what I find more disturbing about all the news about PRISM and related programs, is how US centric the reports Agreed. I worry that the American government has done damage to the cause of globalisation that will take a very long time to heal. This is a problem for us all.

D9u 13y ago
Just what is the cause of globalisation given the current political & economic climate? Is it global surveillance? Military domination? Economic centralization? Or is it something more benign?
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Economic and travel freedom? Mutual understanding and the exchange of culture?
mpyne 13y ago
Don't take this the wrong way, but you mention the effect on globalization as if it were obvious that the damage should worry the American government. On the contrary, the U.S. has vacillated between isolationism and interacting with other nations before. I don't know if you've been over to the U.S. but we have a stunningly large continent of people who feel that it is absolutely treasonous to give foreign aid at all to other nations (especially ones like Egypt and Pakistan) while there are still the poor within domestic boundaries. The people worried about globalization are in large corporations. Even many of our liberals see "globalization" as a code term for "child labor" and "sweatshops".
- rayiner 13y ago
  > Even many of our liberals see "globalization" as a code term for "child labor" and "sweatshops". Right. Globalization can be used as a powerful force to subvert or bypass democracy, and to create a worldwide "race to the bottom."
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- jlgreco 13y ago
  > Don't take this the wrong way, but you mention the effect on globalization as if it were obvious that the damage should worry the American government Oh, certainly not. I don't think they are or will be concerned...

by jlgreco 13y ago

D9u 13y ago

Just what is the cause of globalisation given the current political & economic climate? Is it global surveillance? Military domination? Economic centralization? Or is it something more benign?

jlgreco 13y ago
Economic and travel freedom? Mutual understanding and the exchange of culture?

mpyne 13y ago

Don't take this the wrong way, but you mention the effect on globalization as if it were obvious that the damage should worry the American government. On the contrary, the U.S. has vacillated between isolationism and interacting with other nations before. I don't know if you've been over to the U.S. but we have a stunningly large continent of people who feel that it is absolutely treasonous to give foreign aid at all to other nations (especially ones like Egypt and Pakistan) while there are still the poor within domestic boundaries. The people worried about globalization are in large corporations. Even many of our liberals see "globalization" as a code term for "child labor" and "sweatshops".

rayiner 13y ago
> Even many of our liberals see "globalization" as a code term for "child labor" and "sweatshops". Right. Globalization can be used as a powerful force to subvert or bypass democracy, and to create a worldwide "race to the bottom."
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jlgreco 13y ago
> Don't take this the wrong way, but you mention the effect on globalization as if it were obvious that the damage should worry the American government Oh, certainly not. I don't think they are or will be concerned...