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>The web is not just a place for text/words, that is not its heart and soul... It really never has been. I am thinking back when they named the protocol the Hy
by mapgrep 13y ago
>The web is not just a place for text/words, that is not its heart and soul... It really never has been.
I am thinking back when they named the protocol the HyperText Transport Protocol and the primary format the HyperText Markup Language, text was indeed the heart and soul of the medium.
At one point, images weren't even displayed inline but via a helper app. This is why Mosaic was a big deal.
- wmeredith 13y agoYeah, that's all fine and dandy, but what if we measure "what the web is for" in bandwidth? What do most people use the web "for"? Netflix and YouTube, I'd wager.
- strickjb9 13y agoNo, you are thinking of TCP. This is an article about HTTP. (in terms of bandwidth, HTTP ⊆ TCP)
- MichaelGG 13y agoPretty sure YouTube is transported over HTTP. Not sure about Netflix but I wouldn't be surprised. HTTP has become a generic TCP wrapper for the common request->response pattern.
- vacri 13y agoWireshark doesn't think so: 9792 42.750939000 74.125.109.232 10.1.1.21 TCP 1506 [TCP segment of a reassembled PDU]
- MichaelGG 13y agoDunno, I tried loading a YouTube page and capturing packets. Only ports in use were 443 and 80, even to the cdn-like hostnames (bla.c.youtube.com). First packet shows "GET /videoplayback?...."
- vacri 13y agoA port number is just a port number, it doesn't define what protocol is in use. You can serve different protocols across it - the limitation is that generally you can only have one service listening on a port number. A youtube page will require a couple of different protocols.
- socillion 13y agoYoutube uses RTMP on port 80. RTMPT is RTMP over HTTP, but Youtube doesn't use it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Time_Messaging_Protocol
- tsahyt 13y agoIt is not transported over HTTP, although it does make use of HTTP at the Application Layer. It is transported over TCP, which is a Transport Layer protocol. Yes, I'm being pedantic and annyoing.
- marshray 13y agoPeople are using HTTP as a transport layer, e.g., websockets.
- abraininavat 13y agoWebsockets are the transport layer, built over TCP. Websockets happens to use HTTP as a protocol. That doesn't mean HTTP is the transport layer.
- cbhl 13y agoThe heart of most TV Shows and Movies? A screenplay. Words. Dressed up with faces and costumes and animation, but words nonetheless. I'll grant you that YouTube has a lot of cat videos, which probably doesn't have words in it. But those vlogs have a hell of a lot of words in them too. --- A lot of video is streamed with RTMP, yes, but a lot of Netflix and YouTube content is available over HTTP now too (albeit in the contrived manner of chopping videos up into dozens of tiny files).
- chrisrogers 13y agoWords put to effect with the breadth of human expression captured through full motion video. I challenge one to read the screenplay for Shawshank and feel half as much. What the author extols in word is something quite effectively conveyed in many forms of art. Just as there is great beauty in the text of Baudelaire, there is incredible emotive power in koyaanisqatsi. We should accept the author's challenge to behave with more conviction and purpose, to express ourselves in a more meaningful way. But to do so in word alone is too restrictive for the imagination to bear.
- nolok 13y ago> I challenge one to read the screenplay for Shawshank and feel half as much. It is adapted from a Stephen King novel, having read it I can tell you you feel just as much.
- coldtea 13y agoPorn and cat pictures.
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