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Why is there so much hate for Quartz on here? It may be hard to read on a mobile device, but if you focus on just the articles it is very distraction free and e

by samtp 13y ago

Why is there so much hate for Quartz on here? It may be hard to read on a mobile device, but if you focus on just the articles it is very distraction free and easy to read. Nit-picking is fine, but overly criticizing is stupid when qz.com is miles ahead of almost every other publishing outlet online. Would you rather see more sites like qz.com that focus on content and navigation or more sites like traditional newspapers that throw 100 links, 10 ads, pop-us about related articles, and other crap at you?

argv_empty 13y ago
Would you rather see more sites like qz.com that focus on content and navigation I would expect something that's focused on the content would eliminate the top/side bars, and show me the actual content. Annoyingly, NoScript (which often makes newspapers' web sites quite tolerable) doesn't appear to remove qz.com's clutter.
glesica 13y ago
I find quartz painful to interact with. I generally skip links once I realize they go to Quartz. The problem is that it tries so hard to be simple, but just isn't. It's actually just what the author of the article seems to have been thinking about. For instance, the right-hand sidebar is totally pointless and serves no purpose other than to push the scroll bar into a weird position. The header at the top is just meaningless clutter. Why does the left side-bar need to exist? Why can't the links to other articles just scroll with the rest of the page (the '90s called, they want their frames back)? Sure, Quartz is somewhat less cluttered than Huffpo, but Huffpo doesn't claim to be about simplicity, Quartz does, I find that infuriating.
threedaymonk 13y ago
I can't speak for anyone else, but my disdain for Quartz comes from the fact that following a Quartz link on the device I'm using at that moment seems to have a less than evens chance of delivering readable text. For a site that's full of content, they make it hard to get that content. If they were failing at a hard problem, I'd be more sympathetic, but overcomplicating the business of putting text on a screen to that extent is just inexcusably narcissistic.
fredsted 13y ago
I don't know either. I really like qz.com, I just tried visiting it on my iPhone, articles are easy to read. The sidebar allows me to quickly find other content on the site. It's great.

by samtp 13y ago

argv_empty 13y ago

Would you rather see more sites like qz.com that focus on content and navigation I would expect something that's focused on the content would eliminate the top/side bars, and show me the actual content. Annoyingly, NoScript (which often makes newspapers' web sites quite tolerable) doesn't appear to remove qz.com's clutter.

glesica 13y ago

I find quartz painful to interact with. I generally skip links once I realize they go to Quartz. The problem is that it tries so hard to be simple, but just isn't. It's actually just what the author of the article seems to have been thinking about. For instance, the right-hand sidebar is totally pointless and serves no purpose other than to push the scroll bar into a weird position. The header at the top is just meaningless clutter. Why does the left side-bar need to exist? Why can't the links to other articles just scroll with the rest of the page (the '90s called, they want their frames back)? Sure, Quartz is somewhat less cluttered than Huffpo, but Huffpo doesn't claim to be about simplicity, Quartz does, I find that infuriating.

threedaymonk 13y ago

I can't speak for anyone else, but my disdain for Quartz comes from the fact that following a Quartz link on the device I'm using at that moment seems to have a less than evens chance of delivering readable text. For a site that's full of content, they make it hard to get that content. If they were failing at a hard problem, I'd be more sympathetic, but overcomplicating the business of putting text on a screen to that extent is just inexcusably narcissistic.

fredsted 13y ago

I don't know either. I really like qz.com, I just tried visiting it on my iPhone, articles are easy to read. The sidebar allows me to quickly find other content on the site. It's great.