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> "HN is pretty transparent, I think, but Facebook is more shadowy in this regard." Don't you mean vice-versa? Facebook is completely obvious, and HN is the on

> "HN is pretty transparent, I think, but Facebook is more shadowy in this regard." Don't you mean vice-versa? Facebook is completely obvious, and HN is the one that isn't at all. On Facebook I can easily see if I have 5 'Likes', which 5 people 'Liked' it. On HN, I have no idea why/who/where/etc the up-votes are coming from, or how they are weighted in various ways based on who actually up-voted you. It's the opposite of transparent. It's just a number with an up and down arrow. With Facebook, there is obvious measures by seeing the number of comments (and by who), the number of 'Likes' (and by who), and so forth. Not sure I follow your logic on that, unless you just accidentally reversed your sentence. EDIT: I was thinking more in terms of "Upvotes/Likes". I see what OP might mean now from the standpoint of Facebook logic on what content you actually see, and that side of things.

cryptoz 13y ago
HN is open source. Do you want to know how posts rise to the top? Go read the code. Do you want to know how Facebook determines what content you see? You could be a criminal, a felon, if you try to find out their algorithms (how do you do that, hack their servers?). I'm not the OP, but that might be the direction the original logic was going.
- bluetidepro 13y ago
  Ah, okay. I suppose I mis-read what he meant by that statement. I see what the OP might mean now when you bring up the Facebook logic on what content you see, and that side of things. I was thinking more in terms of "Upvotes/Likes".
- hawkharris 13y ago
  Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for helping to clarify.
- switz 13y ago
  HN is not open source. It may have been at one time, but that ship has long sailed. We have no idea what code may have been changed, and how things are weighted differently. Presumably, there's a reason Paul no longer wants it to be open source.
  - cryptoz 13y ago
    Hm, interesting. I was referring to the old news.arc it seems, I didn't realize times had changed. Thanks.

cryptoz 13y ago

HN is open source. Do you want to know how posts rise to the top? Go read the code. Do you want to know how Facebook determines what content you see? You could be a criminal, a felon, if you try to find out their algorithms (how do you do that, hack their servers?). I'm not the OP, but that might be the direction the original logic was going.

bluetidepro 13y ago
Ah, okay. I suppose I mis-read what he meant by that statement. I see what the OP might mean now when you bring up the Facebook logic on what content you see, and that side of things. I was thinking more in terms of "Upvotes/Likes".
hawkharris 13y ago
Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say. Thanks for helping to clarify.
switz 13y ago
HN is not open source. It may have been at one time, but that ship has long sailed. We have no idea what code may have been changed, and how things are weighted differently. Presumably, there's a reason Paul no longer wants it to be open source.
- cryptoz 13y ago
  Hm, interesting. I was referring to the old news.arc it seems, I didn't realize times had changed. Thanks.