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Adobe Photoshop CC Has Apparently Been Cracked One Day After Launch

50 points by fdm 13y ago

mariusmg 13y ago
Seriously ? Now it's news when software gets cracked ? Happens everyday.....move on.
- mtgx 13y ago
  I guess it's to rub it in the faces of Adobe and everyone else who supported this move "because it would help against piracy", when in reality they've just made it worse for normal customers, and also more expensive (which was probably what they really wanted anyway, and the anti-piracy thing was just the public excuse for doing it).
  - radicalbyte 13y ago
    In this case, piracy is in Adobe's interest. It allows people to learn their tools, which they'll then buy once they're working. Creative Cloud is all about forced upgrades, not cutting piracy.
    - rangibaby 13y ago
      This is it. It's common for design shops to stop on a version of Adobe that is mature and works for them. After a couple of years, you're spending less than $50 per month. InDesign .indd compatibility has consistently broken with each new CS version; with this new system, you're either going to have to subscribe or not be able to interchange files in their original, (easily) editable format with clients, other designers, etc.
    - andrewingram 13y ago
      That's always been my theory too. It's best for the industry in general if someone can learn industry-grade tools whilst messing around as a teenager, it means less training is required and it's a form of vendor lock-in for the software makers.
  - madeofpalk 13y ago
    I don't really buy the 'more expensive' line. Previously the suite was a prohibitively expensive for me, whereas now I pay $50 a month. Spread over two years (approx range between CS updates), I still come ahead by about $1000.
bigd 13y ago
I found myself buying for the first time ps and illustrator. the edu subscription is 20$ month, which is finally, reasonable. I'm very happy to pay for what I'd been using for years but had previously been impossible to afford.
- freehunter 13y ago
  And that's exactly what Adobe is looking for. They don't care that you pirate their software. They know that when the time comes for you to choose something to use professionally, you'll have no choice but to buy a license. And if you're not using it professionally, Adobe lost nothing from the pirated version anyway.
  - free652 13y ago
    They're plenty of professionals that use pirated Adobe software... Like the most of the 2nd/3rd world countries.
    - sbarre 13y ago
      They still wouldn't be paying for it though, and when they can afford to, they will.. And yet again, it just grows their market share and continues to make their products the de-facto.. If the 2nd/3rd world started to standardize on non-Adobe tools, then all the 1st world agencies that use that cheap labour could potentially start looking into those other tools, right?
workbench 13y ago
Considering how complacent Adobe is right now it worries me how bad things will get when they no longer have to entice an upgrade every year.
threeseed 13y ago
And people can download music for free yet Apple sells billions of songs on iTunes. People are more than happy to pay if the price/convenience is right.
ihsw 13y ago
It's probably a honeypot.
fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
I find this amusing. Adobe's piracy problem is of it's own making. They've cultivated these pirates for years by keeping their products priced so high, and by ignoring widespread piracy from students and amateurs. They've got their work cut out for them if they want to solve this problem.
- jesperlindstrom 13y ago
  I agree. Photoshop is something I use a lot on a hobby basis, but as a student I can't justify buying it because of the high price, which leaves me with no other option...
  - bigd 13y ago
    as a student you can get it for 20$ month. That's not even one night out.
    - fennecfoxen 13y ago
      Fun fact: One way to tell the difference between the people who partied their way through college on someone else's dime and the people who were serious students responsible for their own future is that the former will dismiss $20/mo as "not even one night out" and the latter will think of it in terms of the additional scrimping on basic supplies and the like (or sharing textbooks, or...) ahem okay, sorry, I just get a little resentful at seeing the resources for serious academic endeavor being measured in leisure units. Seriously though, even if everyone else doesn't party their way through school, $240/yr is a fair little chunk of change to a lot of students, and is certainly well within the price range where piracy makes a lot of financial sense.
      - bigd 13y ago
        Sorry to disagree, but even $240/yr is nothing compared to the annual fee of graduate studies. I think this expense fits in the "studying material", therefore is 100% justified. tldr: master 10k$/yr + 240$/yr ~= 10k$/yr. also: Don't go to starbucks everyday and learn to brew your coffee . Gonna save MUCH more. (2coffee/day*2$) - 200$( coffe machine & 1 year of coffee) - 240AdobeCreativeCloud >0
rplacd 13y ago
If the CC's brought in one good thing, it's motivation to finally surgically remove Bridge from PS - I eyed it with suspicion when it came and tried to make itself at home; and I'm not terribly mourning the unceremonious slitting of the umbilical cord. (I am - in short - a miserable, tribal consumer.)
ajiang 13y ago
I'll echo radicalbyte's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5911792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5911792) which is that Adobe doesn't care about the casual user who pirates their software. It's extremely expensive software that they would only expect professionals to pay for, and typically those designers, graphic artists, etc. at companies are not going to be pirating anything. Their companies will pay for the software, and given the choice, those professionals will pick the software they're most comfortable with. By making it pretty darn easy to get your hands on a pirated copy, Adobe is playing the long game but winning in the end as the steep learning curve keeps their users from switching.
- socialist_coder 13y ago
  It's not easy to pirate though. The last versions have been pretty tricky for "normal" people to successfully crack and run. Just look at the comments on any file sharing site. The majority of them are like, "i cant get this to work". People end up running an older version and not the latest. If this was really their intended strategy they would just make a free version for students or amateurs. As it is now, they are spending a LOT of effort trying to make it harder to crack their products. And it is harder, but it's still possible. Look at Autodesk Maya, they have a free version for students so there is absolutely no reason to pirate it.
mb0 13y ago
The prospective of crackers is that all commercial software should be cracked & distributed amongst the community. It doesn't matter if it's a $20 chat client, or a $10K industrial CAD platform. Reverse engineering is a sport to them.
- fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
  s/prospective/perspective/
draugadrotten 13y ago
An uncrackable adobe copy protection is what the Gimp (d*mn that name) really needs to finally get usable. Legions of creative students will improve upon Gimp as soon as they can no longer use Adobe for free. Professionals already pay for Adobe.
- timc3 13y ago
  And a new usable UI, and for some additional features
- sergiotapia 13y ago
  GIMP needs to not look like a program that time warped forward in time from 1993.
  - fennecfoxen 13y ago
    I'm going to be pedantic for a moment to make a point later... The GIMP is essentially an inanimate object and has no needs of its own. It does not want to be used. It does not want to be popular. It does not want. It would be quite happy to be consigned to perdition, except it can't be happy at all. Let's be clear here: you want a program like GIMP that doesn't look like it time warped forward from 1993. Which is a different matter altogether, but the main thing is that it sounds less impressive, and that you should watch out for any potential sense of entitlement to awesomer software, because you probably didn't actually pay any money or work on said software... :P Now, some of us are a little less picky about UI and deployability in an actual or hypothetical commercial design-house workflow and the usual complaints, and are possibly a little more picky about spending money (and/or pirating software). We'll continue to happily use the GIMP for our miscellaneous photo-editing needs as such needs arise, and volunteer labor will continue to improve it.
nchlswu 13y ago
I love how the media keeps portraying CC as an anti-piracy measure. It may be a segue to it, but unless software truly lives in the cloud this would never be the case. It's changing the revenue stream and in a lot of cases, it's more compelling for users to switch over.
Simple1234 13y ago
An entire day? What a bunch of lazy slackers...
s0me0ne 13y ago
Paint Shop or Corel Draw are much cheaper. If you still need commercial softare.

50 points by fdm 13y ago

mariusmg 13y ago

Seriously ? Now it's news when software gets cracked ? Happens everyday.....move on.

mtgx 13y ago
I guess it's to rub it in the faces of Adobe and everyone else who supported this move "because it would help against piracy", when in reality they've just made it worse for normal customers, and also more expensive (which was probably what they really wanted anyway, and the anti-piracy thing was just the public excuse for doing it).
- radicalbyte 13y ago
  In this case, piracy is in Adobe's interest. It allows people to learn their tools, which they'll then buy once they're working. Creative Cloud is all about forced upgrades, not cutting piracy.
  - rangibaby 13y ago
    This is it. It's common for design shops to stop on a version of Adobe that is mature and works for them. After a couple of years, you're spending less than $50 per month. InDesign .indd compatibility has consistently broken with each new CS version; with this new system, you're either going to have to subscribe or not be able to interchange files in their original, (easily) editable format with clients, other designers, etc.
  - andrewingram 13y ago
    That's always been my theory too. It's best for the industry in general if someone can learn industry-grade tools whilst messing around as a teenager, it means less training is required and it's a form of vendor lock-in for the software makers.
- madeofpalk 13y ago
  I don't really buy the 'more expensive' line. Previously the suite was a prohibitively expensive for me, whereas now I pay $50 a month. Spread over two years (approx range between CS updates), I still come ahead by about $1000.

bigd 13y ago

I found myself buying for the first time ps and illustrator. the edu subscription is 20$ month, which is finally, reasonable. I'm very happy to pay for what I'd been using for years but had previously been impossible to afford.

freehunter 13y ago
And that's exactly what Adobe is looking for. They don't care that you pirate their software. They know that when the time comes for you to choose something to use professionally, you'll have no choice but to buy a license. And if you're not using it professionally, Adobe lost nothing from the pirated version anyway.
- free652 13y ago
  They're plenty of professionals that use pirated Adobe software... Like the most of the 2nd/3rd world countries.
  - sbarre 13y ago
    They still wouldn't be paying for it though, and when they can afford to, they will.. And yet again, it just grows their market share and continues to make their products the de-facto.. If the 2nd/3rd world started to standardize on non-Adobe tools, then all the 1st world agencies that use that cheap labour could potentially start looking into those other tools, right?

workbench 13y ago

Considering how complacent Adobe is right now it worries me how bad things will get when they no longer have to entice an upgrade every year.

threeseed 13y ago

And people can download music for free yet Apple sells billions of songs on iTunes. People are more than happy to pay if the price/convenience is right.

ihsw 13y ago

It's probably a honeypot.

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago

I find this amusing. Adobe's piracy problem is of it's own making. They've cultivated these pirates for years by keeping their products priced so high, and by ignoring widespread piracy from students and amateurs. They've got their work cut out for them if they want to solve this problem.

jesperlindstrom 13y ago
I agree. Photoshop is something I use a lot on a hobby basis, but as a student I can't justify buying it because of the high price, which leaves me with no other option...
- bigd 13y ago
  as a student you can get it for 20$ month. That's not even one night out.
  - fennecfoxen 13y ago
    Fun fact: One way to tell the difference between the people who partied their way through college on someone else's dime and the people who were serious students responsible for their own future is that the former will dismiss $20/mo as "not even one night out" and the latter will think of it in terms of the additional scrimping on basic supplies and the like (or sharing textbooks, or...) ahem okay, sorry, I just get a little resentful at seeing the resources for serious academic endeavor being measured in leisure units. Seriously though, even if everyone else doesn't party their way through school, $240/yr is a fair little chunk of change to a lot of students, and is certainly well within the price range where piracy makes a lot of financial sense.
    - bigd 13y ago
      Sorry to disagree, but even $240/yr is nothing compared to the annual fee of graduate studies. I think this expense fits in the "studying material", therefore is 100% justified. tldr: master 10k$/yr + 240$/yr ~= 10k$/yr. also: Don't go to starbucks everyday and learn to brew your coffee . Gonna save MUCH more. (2coffee/day*2$) - 200$( coffe machine & 1 year of coffee) - 240AdobeCreativeCloud >0

rplacd 13y ago

If the CC's brought in one good thing, it's motivation to finally surgically remove Bridge from PS - I eyed it with suspicion when it came and tried to make itself at home; and I'm not terribly mourning the unceremonious slitting of the umbilical cord. (I am - in short - a miserable, tribal consumer.)

ajiang 13y ago

I'll echo radicalbyte's comment (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5911792 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5911792) which is that Adobe doesn't care about the casual user who pirates their software. It's extremely expensive software that they would only expect professionals to pay for, and typically those designers, graphic artists, etc. at companies are not going to be pirating anything. Their companies will pay for the software, and given the choice, those professionals will pick the software they're most comfortable with. By making it pretty darn easy to get your hands on a pirated copy, Adobe is playing the long game but winning in the end as the steep learning curve keeps their users from switching.

socialist_coder 13y ago
It's not easy to pirate though. The last versions have been pretty tricky for "normal" people to successfully crack and run. Just look at the comments on any file sharing site. The majority of them are like, "i cant get this to work". People end up running an older version and not the latest. If this was really their intended strategy they would just make a free version for students or amateurs. As it is now, they are spending a LOT of effort trying to make it harder to crack their products. And it is harder, but it's still possible. Look at Autodesk Maya, they have a free version for students so there is absolutely no reason to pirate it.

mb0 13y ago

The prospective of crackers is that all commercial software should be cracked & distributed amongst the community. It doesn't matter if it's a $20 chat client, or a $10K industrial CAD platform. Reverse engineering is a sport to them.

fnordfnordfnord 13y ago
s/prospective/perspective/

draugadrotten 13y ago

An uncrackable adobe copy protection is what the Gimp (d*mn that name) really needs to finally get usable. Legions of creative students will improve upon Gimp as soon as they can no longer use Adobe for free. Professionals already pay for Adobe.

timc3 13y ago
And a new usable UI, and for some additional features
sergiotapia 13y ago
GIMP needs to not look like a program that time warped forward in time from 1993.
- fennecfoxen 13y ago
  I'm going to be pedantic for a moment to make a point later... The GIMP is essentially an inanimate object and has no needs of its own. It does not want to be used. It does not want to be popular. It does not want. It would be quite happy to be consigned to perdition, except it can't be happy at all. Let's be clear here: you want a program like GIMP that doesn't look like it time warped forward from 1993. Which is a different matter altogether, but the main thing is that it sounds less impressive, and that you should watch out for any potential sense of entitlement to awesomer software, because you probably didn't actually pay any money or work on said software... :P Now, some of us are a little less picky about UI and deployability in an actual or hypothetical commercial design-house workflow and the usual complaints, and are possibly a little more picky about spending money (and/or pirating software). We'll continue to happily use the GIMP for our miscellaneous photo-editing needs as such needs arise, and volunteer labor will continue to improve it.

nchlswu 13y ago

I love how the media keeps portraying CC as an anti-piracy measure. It may be a segue to it, but unless software truly lives in the cloud this would never be the case. It's changing the revenue stream and in a lot of cases, it's more compelling for users to switch over.

Simple1234 13y ago

An entire day? What a bunch of lazy slackers...

s0me0ne 13y ago

Paint Shop or Corel Draw are much cheaper. If you still need commercial softare.