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I'm just excited the older models will be getting less expensive soon so I can afford one.
by tbrock 13y ago
I'm just excited the older models will be getting less expensive soon so I can afford one.
- dmishe 13y agoPretty sure that macbook pros are cheaper and faster that that already.
- tracker1 13y agoDon't be too sure of that.. plenty of pros want upgradable systems... Most of the mac pro users I know tend to keep them 4-5 years or more, with an upgrade cycle every 12-24 months (faster cpu, more ram, ssd, etc) in the same box. The new form factor really limits that, and would probably be better served with a consumer grade CPU etc.. this is much closer to a mid-range desktop a lot of people have been asking for, except it's going to cost an arm and a leg.
- colmvp 13y agoYeah, as much as I love the aesthetics, I'm predicting poor sales unless the price is comparable to other desktops. It's precisely the reason I avoided the Cube back in 2000/2001 and opted for the Tower.
- Shivetya 13y agoComparable to whose desktops? The server edition of the Mac Mini is a thousand dollars and its absolutely nothing special in hardware. I haven't seen this much disappointment amongst people who actually use the hardware when it comes to an Apple product ever. Well, we have the cheer leaders for the new hardware but its pretty obvious they don't use the current hardware. You get these types in any conversation. No internal expansion, no built in CD/DVD drives, limited memory, no apparent means of upgrading the video, and if one of the components breaks its off to the store. Yet if predictions are right this will be even more expensive than current solutions. Worse, Thunderbolt enclosures are not cheap, if can even find them. Unless those price predictions are way off base I and a few others I know have even started serious talk of going hackintosh. Apple had every opportunity to produce a slimmer tower that still gave options for expansion. Instead its a replay of the "Cube" days. Its not even good looking, the Cube at least could pass as a conversation piece
- tracker1 13y agoI think it's pretty good looking myself... just that it would be better with desktop class parts, and sold as a mid-range option (between the mini and pro). As it stands, as a new pro, I think it's a failure. I'm with you on the hackintosh route.
- sliverstorm 13y agothis is much closer to a mid-range desktop a lot of people have been asking for, except it's going to cost an arm and a leg. Kind of like Apple is pulling something like this: Mid-range desktop you say? Hmm... Yes, I've got just the thing- How about a mid-range desktop with the price of a top-end desktop?
- dasmoth 13y agoThat's definitely how this looks. If it turns out that there are actually a range of machines, with GPU options other than Firepro, this could still end up as a very compelling mid-to-high-end personal desktop.
- ricardobeat 13y agoI don't see how a machine that has almost 1GB/s disk transfer speeds, 60GB/s memory bandwidth and 7 teraflops GPU power (almost double the top of the line geforce) is "mid-range" unless you're from the future.
- mahyarm 13y agoIf you do something that is fairly CPU bound, such as large project C++ compiles for iOS software, it matters, a lot. GPUs are not going to make those compiles any faster, and apple has abandoned distcc. The more CPU cores the better. I'm seriously disappointed that they are not offering a 2 or even 3 socket version of the new mac pro. They're all, fuck you iOS developers, the only people who are practically stuck on our platform.
- diroussel 13y agoI don't think slow C++ compilation was the problem that Apple thought it was addressing in the new MacPro.
- dasmoth 13y agoI don't think performance numbers have been a good way to distinguish between mid-range and high-end for a while now. Especially for users who are looking for a single machine that covers a range of uses including games. ECC memory is a high-end feature. As is the specific choice of GPUs. Arguably, the fast PCIe SSD counts, too, although I suspect that won't last -- everyone benefits from I/O bandwidth, and there's no particular reason, other than market segmentation, for PCIe SSDs to be more expensive.