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I was actually looking forward to a console that made sense in an always connected environment. No more need to deal with discs. As a steam gamer, this would'v

by ameen 13y ago

I was actually looking forward to a console that made sense in an always connected environment. No more need to deal with discs. As a steam gamer, this would've been the console of my choice. I don't think I'll be getting any of this generations consoles yet. There really aren't much differences between current-gen consoles and so-called next-gen consoles besides a spec bump and revamped controllers.

cheald 13y ago
Honestly, a PC with Steam, and XBox 360 controller, and an HDMI cable is all I really need. I've moved to doing that pretty exclusively and it works wonderfully. Bonus, I don't have to re-purchase games to play them on my laptop or in my office.
- ameen 13y ago
  Most people didn't realize that MS was pushing the envelope with their purported "Cloud processing tech", which was supposed to be based on Remote processing of a few threads (A.I., Physics, etc) and even had a new programming paradigm for it (based on prioritized threads that could be processed either locally or remotely)
  - zainny 13y ago
    As someone who has done game development (no longer though), I can tell you absolutely nobody is going to do AI or Physics through Microsoft's cloud infrastructure. Absolutely nobody. Never was, and never will. It doesn't make sense.
- felixmar 13y ago
  Where is the Steam Box? I would pay Valve $800 if it guarantees 1080p@60 games for several years. Both the XBox One and PS4 likely do not have enough power to do that for most games.
MichaelGG 13y ago
There's no reason that you can't avoid discs. Xbox One will still have the on-demand downloads, just like today, although it seems it'll be for every game. The rage was over adding "cloud DRM" to purchased discs. MS most likely had this planned out from the beginning. It's a great way to do PR. Announce something silly, get people talking about your product and not the competition. And when they do, it's on the thing you've decided. Then, flip it back, destroying the one thing people were praising the competition for. Get bonus points for "listening to the community" and being "flexible". Now, MS has dominated the press for a while, and removed the "one" big problem with Xbox. Where is the discussion of how terrible it is that your Xbox that you paid for, running software you buy, on a monthly subscription, is shoving ads all over the UI? The fact that they change the location of ads so you don't get accustomed to ignoring one part of the screen. If someone brings that up now, people can respond "it's always something! MS made a big change and went against publishers, but you just want to complain". Just like when VS 2012 launched with the shitty 1-bit icons and arbitrary casing everywhere. People complaining about "THE MENU YELLS" focused the conversation on that one thing. Then for RTM? "OK we listened and all caps are optional, can we stop complaining now?" It's a possibly risky, but great way to control the conversation.
- magic_haze 13y ago
  I thought they announced the new xbox wouldn't have ads on the home screen?
  - MichaelGG 13y ago
    Oh, wow, that's fantastic.

by ameen 13y ago

cheald 13y ago

Honestly, a PC with Steam, and XBox 360 controller, and an HDMI cable is all I really need. I've moved to doing that pretty exclusively and it works wonderfully. Bonus, I don't have to re-purchase games to play them on my laptop or in my office.

ameen 13y ago
Most people didn't realize that MS was pushing the envelope with their purported "Cloud processing tech", which was supposed to be based on Remote processing of a few threads (A.I., Physics, etc) and even had a new programming paradigm for it (based on prioritized threads that could be processed either locally or remotely)
- zainny 13y ago
  As someone who has done game development (no longer though), I can tell you absolutely nobody is going to do AI or Physics through Microsoft's cloud infrastructure. Absolutely nobody. Never was, and never will. It doesn't make sense.
felixmar 13y ago
Where is the Steam Box? I would pay Valve $800 if it guarantees 1080p@60 games for several years. Both the XBox One and PS4 likely do not have enough power to do that for most games.

MichaelGG 13y ago

There's no reason that you can't avoid discs. Xbox One will still have the on-demand downloads, just like today, although it seems it'll be for every game. The rage was over adding "cloud DRM" to purchased discs. MS most likely had this planned out from the beginning. It's a great way to do PR. Announce something silly, get people talking about your product and not the competition. And when they do, it's on the thing you've decided. Then, flip it back, destroying the one thing people were praising the competition for. Get bonus points for "listening to the community" and being "flexible". Now, MS has dominated the press for a while, and removed the "one" big problem with Xbox. Where is the discussion of how terrible it is that your Xbox that you paid for, running software you buy, on a monthly subscription, is shoving ads all over the UI? The fact that they change the location of ads so you don't get accustomed to ignoring one part of the screen. If someone brings that up now, people can respond "it's always something! MS made a big change and went against publishers, but you just want to complain". Just like when VS 2012 launched with the shitty 1-bit icons and arbitrary casing everywhere. People complaining about "THE MENU YELLS" focused the conversation on that one thing. Then for RTM? "OK we listened and all caps are optional, can we stop complaining now?" It's a possibly risky, but great way to control the conversation.

magic_haze 13y ago
I thought they announced the new xbox wouldn't have ads on the home screen?
- MichaelGG 13y ago
  Oh, wow, that's fantastic.