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I don't get the negative response to this. They made a mistake (admittedly being too greedy), and now they're correcting it. People didn't like the DRM, SO THEY

I don't get the negative response to this. They made a mistake (admittedly being too greedy), and now they're correcting it. People didn't like the DRM, SO THEY TOOK IT OUT! Get over holding a grudge; the Xbox has a lot of very good exclusives and has always been a solid console. It just goes to show you that you can never make the internet happy.

sharkweek 13y ago
I'm no expert here and I especially don't really have a preference between the two consoles as I haven't gamed much the past few years -- but it seems a lot of fanboy personalities love feverishly being "right" This is just an opportunity to say "HA, we won! They changed their course of action because of US!!! SUCK IT MICROSOFT" We all know PC gamers are the master race though anyways, so any subsequent arguing is moot /s
baddox 13y ago
I don't quite understand why you attribute the mistake to "being too greedy," especially since this decision is a response to public outrage and thus will likely make Microsoft more money/profit. One could just as easily attribute Microsoft's desire to satisfy angry customers to "greed."
- SurfScore 13y ago
  I was referring to the original DRM decision as being too greedy when they made it (before the backlash). Companies institute DRM to decrease piracy, which increases their bottom line. The effectiveness of DRM is a totally different subject, but in this situation they chose their bottom line (DRM) over the desires of their customers, taking a gamble that the losses in sales from pissed off people would be less than the gains from decreased piracy.
  - cdash 13y ago
    You state this, and then wonder why people think its a big deal and don't just forgive them? So people got pissed enough and Microsoft got scared enough to change their mind but that doesn't change the fact that they actively wanted to screw over their customers because they wanted more money and they thought that you would just submit to it and be hyped by all their buzzwords. They haven't changed at all and things like this will happen in the future until they do.
Negitivefrags 13y ago
It's simple, not everyone has the same opinion. People like myself preferred the system they designed because you didn't need to use the disk and could play a game you owned on any system that you logged in to, just like steam.
msabalau 13y ago
Some people viewed a series of actions and statements from Microsoft as showing contempt. Simply changing a business model to one more acceptable to consumers does not remove people's emotional reactions and suspicions about motives. Time (assuming no other mis-steps in the immediate future) can cure a lot of this, but, as you may have noticed, an awful lot of people's personal identity gets caught up in their consumer electronics purchases. Microsoft messed up so badly that many people themselves as being on the xBox side of the "holy wars" that swirl around consoles "converted" to Sony. A brand is a powerful tool. It might not be logical, but people do build emotional connections with brands. As with any power tool, you want to be careful and avoid cutting off your arm.
contextfree 13y ago
They didn't really "take out the DRM", they just replaced one form of DRM (not being able to play if your internet has been disconnected for 24 hours) with another (not being able to play without the disc in the drive). It's pick your poison, and different people have different preferences.

sharkweek 13y ago

I'm no expert here and I especially don't really have a preference between the two consoles as I haven't gamed much the past few years -- but it seems a lot of fanboy personalities love feverishly being "right" This is just an opportunity to say "HA, we won! They changed their course of action because of US!!! SUCK IT MICROSOFT" We all know PC gamers are the master race though anyways, so any subsequent arguing is moot /s

baddox 13y ago

I don't quite understand why you attribute the mistake to "being too greedy," especially since this decision is a response to public outrage and thus will likely make Microsoft more money/profit. One could just as easily attribute Microsoft's desire to satisfy angry customers to "greed."

SurfScore 13y ago
I was referring to the original DRM decision as being too greedy when they made it (before the backlash). Companies institute DRM to decrease piracy, which increases their bottom line. The effectiveness of DRM is a totally different subject, but in this situation they chose their bottom line (DRM) over the desires of their customers, taking a gamble that the losses in sales from pissed off people would be less than the gains from decreased piracy.
- cdash 13y ago
  You state this, and then wonder why people think its a big deal and don't just forgive them? So people got pissed enough and Microsoft got scared enough to change their mind but that doesn't change the fact that they actively wanted to screw over their customers because they wanted more money and they thought that you would just submit to it and be hyped by all their buzzwords. They haven't changed at all and things like this will happen in the future until they do.

Negitivefrags 13y ago

It's simple, not everyone has the same opinion. People like myself preferred the system they designed because you didn't need to use the disk and could play a game you owned on any system that you logged in to, just like steam.

msabalau 13y ago

Some people viewed a series of actions and statements from Microsoft as showing contempt. Simply changing a business model to one more acceptable to consumers does not remove people's emotional reactions and suspicions about motives. Time (assuming no other mis-steps in the immediate future) can cure a lot of this, but, as you may have noticed, an awful lot of people's personal identity gets caught up in their consumer electronics purchases. Microsoft messed up so badly that many people themselves as being on the xBox side of the "holy wars" that swirl around consoles "converted" to Sony. A brand is a powerful tool. It might not be logical, but people do build emotional connections with brands. As with any power tool, you want to be careful and avoid cutting off your arm.

contextfree 13y ago

They didn't really "take out the DRM", they just replaced one form of DRM (not being able to play if your internet has been disconnected for 24 hours) with another (not being able to play without the disc in the drive). It's pick your poison, and different people have different preferences.