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> You had me right up until calling Apple a hipster love fest with substandard hardware. Alright, alright. The hardware itself is, of course, not substandard.

by maratd 13y ago

> You had me right up until calling Apple a hipster love fest with substandard hardware. Alright, alright. The hardware itself is, of course, not substandard. You're paying for the brand, so it's just overpriced. Yes, build quality is wonderful on the Air, but my Samsung Series 9 has similarly wonderful build quality. You're definitely paying for the brand. That's why everything they sell has a prominent Apple logo stamped on it. If it wasn't for that logo, people wouldn't fork over the kind of money they do. Yes, they built up their brand on good service and quality, but then, every luxury brand does that as well. Now, somebody has to be the luxury brand and somebody has to make "cheap crap" as you say. That's fine and there's nothing wrong with that. But please don't pretend that Apple is for the masses. It makes about as much sense as saying everybody should drive a Ferrari. My point was that not every business needs to be run like a luxury brand to make money. Look at Samsung and many others as an example. You can make plenty of money on volume, up-selling, and cross-selling, as well as expanding internationally.

fusiongyro 13y ago
> But please don't pretend that Apple is for the masses. Not every Apple product is for everyone, but they have done a very good job of creating a product line diverse enough that anyone can afford something. Minimum wage laborers are certainly seen sporting iPods. iPads are still the most popular kind of tablet. If you can afford X for a product you want, if you put in the effort/take out a loan, you can afford 1.5X for a product in the same class. We're not talking about cars, where the luxury brands can easily exceed the expense of commodity brands by factors of ten or a hundred. > If it wasn't for that logo, people wouldn't fork over the kind of money they do. Yes, they built up their brand on good service and quality, but then, every luxury brand does that as well. The fact that other luxury brands do something similar vis-a-vis service and quality doesn't mean you get to slyly deduct it from reasons to buy Apple. Buying Apple gets you a pretty thoroughly integrated positive experience. The logo certainly has value, but it's a lot more than just the logo. Expect to see Apple remaining in their market position for as long as it takes their competitors to develop an appreciation for the advantages these non-technical and semi-technical efforts bring.

by maratd 13y ago

fusiongyro 13y ago

> But please don't pretend that Apple is for the masses. Not every Apple product is for everyone, but they have done a very good job of creating a product line diverse enough that anyone can afford something. Minimum wage laborers are certainly seen sporting iPods. iPads are still the most popular kind of tablet. If you can afford X for a product you want, if you put in the effort/take out a loan, you can afford 1.5X for a product in the same class. We're not talking about cars, where the luxury brands can easily exceed the expense of commodity brands by factors of ten or a hundred. > If it wasn't for that logo, people wouldn't fork over the kind of money they do. Yes, they built up their brand on good service and quality, but then, every luxury brand does that as well. The fact that other luxury brands do something similar vis-a-vis service and quality doesn't mean you get to slyly deduct it from reasons to buy Apple. Buying Apple gets you a pretty thoroughly integrated positive experience. The logo certainly has value, but it's a lot more than just the logo. Expect to see Apple remaining in their market position for as long as it takes their competitors to develop an appreciation for the advantages these non-technical and semi-technical efforts bring.