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vimperator is probably the most useful web extension i've ever used.. and it doesn't have a good chrome equivalent http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator http://

vimperator is probably the most useful web extension i've ever used.. and it doesn't have a good chrome equivalent http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator

jcbrand 13y ago
I've used Vimperator before but I now use Vimium on chromium and very much prefer it. When you navigate via keyboard (by pressing "f"), Vimperator marks links with numbers, Vimium marks them with letters, from ("a to "zz'). Letters are much nicer when you can touch type and your hands are already on the keys. Vimperator used to do silly things like hide the address bar and force you into doing everything in a kind of "command mode". It never felt very smoothly integrated with the browser and it was always a pain to try and open a new site via command mode instead of just using <Ctrl>-L and typing it in the address bar. Invariably I would try to type something in a textbox or use some keyboard shortcut, only to find that Vimperator hijacked it and I'm now typing in command mode. Vimium doesn't give me these problems because it doesn't have a command prompt/mode. Besides that, it's integrated very nicely with chrome, in such a way that I can use normal keyboard shortcuts as far as possible, but have vim-like shortcuts for the things that matter (e.g. "/" for searching, navigation via keyboard etc.)
- gcr 13y ago
  Pentadactyl (Vimperator fork) annotates links with letters now, I think on the home row. The very first instructions that you saw when opening Vimium were "How do I unhide the address bar?" It takes two clicks or just a few keystrokes.
- q_revert 13y ago
  to me vimperator isn't just about having a few vim bindings here and there, it completely redefines the browsing experience... also, when you "f" to find links, you can just enter a piece of the url string and vimperator opens it.. either way, it doesn't matter much.. vimium is a lightweight clone of vimperator, if that's what you want then of course you'll prefer it.. these "problems" you're talking about in vimperator are features once you actually embrace it and use it properly. it's a power user's tool.. and should be recognized as such.. http://i.imgur.com/vznzJMV.png http://i.imgur.com/vznzJMV.png
- doktrin 13y ago
  > I've used Vimperator before but I now use Vimium on chromium and very much prefer it. > When you navigate via keyboard (by pressing "f"), Vimperator marks links with numbers, Vimium marks them with letters, from ("a to "zz'). Letters are much nicer when you can touch type and your hands are already on the keys. I can't get myself to use Vimium. While I agree that it is in some ways a stronger navigation experience, the fact that it goes inert on un-loaded pages is a deal breaker. Not being able to cycle through my tabs all the way is not cool (i.e. as soon as it hits gmail it ceases to respond). Also, while I do like the alphabetic link highlights, I dislike the size. Particularly here on HN, the links can overlap making it difficult to determine what the second letter in the sequence is.
doktrin 13y ago
Fully agreed. I've tried both Vimium and Vrome. Neither were adequate, IMHO. Had I never touched Vimperator, Vimium would have been perfectly fine - but my bar is now set much higher.

vimperator is probably the most useful web extension i've ever used.. and it doesn't have a good chrome equivalent http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator http://www.vimperator.org/vimperator

jcbrand 13y ago

I've used Vimperator before but I now use Vimium on chromium and very much prefer it. When you navigate via keyboard (by pressing "f"), Vimperator marks links with numbers, Vimium marks them with letters, from ("a to "zz'). Letters are much nicer when you can touch type and your hands are already on the keys. Vimperator used to do silly things like hide the address bar and force you into doing everything in a kind of "command mode". It never felt very smoothly integrated with the browser and it was always a pain to try and open a new site via command mode instead of just using <Ctrl>-L and typing it in the address bar. Invariably I would try to type something in a textbox or use some keyboard shortcut, only to find that Vimperator hijacked it and I'm now typing in command mode. Vimium doesn't give me these problems because it doesn't have a command prompt/mode. Besides that, it's integrated very nicely with chrome, in such a way that I can use normal keyboard shortcuts as far as possible, but have vim-like shortcuts for the things that matter (e.g. "/" for searching, navigation via keyboard etc.)

gcr 13y ago
Pentadactyl (Vimperator fork) annotates links with letters now, I think on the home row. The very first instructions that you saw when opening Vimium were "How do I unhide the address bar?" It takes two clicks or just a few keystrokes.
q_revert 13y ago
to me vimperator isn't just about having a few vim bindings here and there, it completely redefines the browsing experience... also, when you "f" to find links, you can just enter a piece of the url string and vimperator opens it.. either way, it doesn't matter much.. vimium is a lightweight clone of vimperator, if that's what you want then of course you'll prefer it.. these "problems" you're talking about in vimperator are features once you actually embrace it and use it properly. it's a power user's tool.. and should be recognized as such.. http://i.imgur.com/vznzJMV.png http://i.imgur.com/vznzJMV.png
doktrin 13y ago
> I've used Vimperator before but I now use Vimium on chromium and very much prefer it. > When you navigate via keyboard (by pressing "f"), Vimperator marks links with numbers, Vimium marks them with letters, from ("a to "zz'). Letters are much nicer when you can touch type and your hands are already on the keys. I can't get myself to use Vimium. While I agree that it is in some ways a stronger navigation experience, the fact that it goes inert on un-loaded pages is a deal breaker. Not being able to cycle through my tabs all the way is not cool (i.e. as soon as it hits gmail it ceases to respond). Also, while I do like the alphabetic link highlights, I dislike the size. Particularly here on HN, the links can overlap making it difficult to determine what the second letter in the sequence is.

doktrin 13y ago

Fully agreed. I've tried both Vimium and Vrome. Neither were adequate, IMHO. Had I never touched Vimperator, Vimium would have been perfectly fine - but my bar is now set much higher.