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There is absolutely scads of research showing that boys and girls are different from day 1. Boy and girl infants react differently to the same stimuli in contro

by ellyagg 17y ago

There is absolutely scads of research showing that boys and girls are different from day 1. Boy and girl infants react differently to the same stimuli in controlled experiments. I'm not doing your research for you, though; look it up.

xenophanes 17y ago
I've read some such research. Never found any that was valid, though. Do you have one cite that you're especially confident is correct? Bear in mind that "genetically react differently to some stimuli" is not the same thing as "genetically has a gender role". The study would need to bridge that gap or it can't validly offer any conclusion about gender roles.
- jibiki 17y ago
  Here's one I found on google: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W4K-4BVNR3H-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=acc918c6c815d0bd29232d2fcbdc9026 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi... I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Obviously there are genetic differences between men and women. It seems like you're saying these differences are purely physical, but that's a meaningless statement to those of us who don't believe in dualism.
- tungstenfurnace 17y ago
  Hi Xenophanes. I would like to remind you of my theory, which stems from the fact that boys and girls are born with slightly different brains (due to genetics). You will say that that doesn't matter: brains are universal computers. Well, yes. However they are also a key part of the environment of the developing mind. Our environments influence what choices we make (by controlling the options and their relative costs, not by making the choices). For example, if I am born near the sea then I am more likely to learn to swim before my cousin, who lives far from the sea. He lives in the mountains, and thus he is more likely to learn to climb first. In the same way, boys and girls may have different susceptibilities to various memes, because their brain environments have differentially influenced their choices. Under this model, average male and female behaviour will eventually converge. How? Because, assuming one progresses and lives long enough, parochial theories are replaced by universal ones. And one's biological sex and the memes I referred to are parochial factors.

by ellyagg 17y ago

xenophanes 17y ago

I've read some such research. Never found any that was valid, though. Do you have one cite that you're especially confident is correct? Bear in mind that "genetically react differently to some stimuli" is not the same thing as "genetically has a gender role". The study would need to bridge that gap or it can't validly offer any conclusion about gender roles.

jibiki 17y ago
Here's one I found on google: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6W4K-4BVNR3H-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=acc918c6c815d0bd29232d2fcbdc9026 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi... I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Obviously there are genetic differences between men and women. It seems like you're saying these differences are purely physical, but that's a meaningless statement to those of us who don't believe in dualism.
tungstenfurnace 17y ago
Hi Xenophanes. I would like to remind you of my theory, which stems from the fact that boys and girls are born with slightly different brains (due to genetics). You will say that that doesn't matter: brains are universal computers. Well, yes. However they are also a key part of the environment of the developing mind. Our environments influence what choices we make (by controlling the options and their relative costs, not by making the choices). For example, if I am born near the sea then I am more likely to learn to swim before my cousin, who lives far from the sea. He lives in the mountains, and thus he is more likely to learn to climb first. In the same way, boys and girls may have different susceptibilities to various memes, because their brain environments have differentially influenced their choices. Under this model, average male and female behaviour will eventually converge. How? Because, assuming one progresses and lives long enough, parochial theories are replaced by universal ones. And one's biological sex and the memes I referred to are parochial factors.