Actually Kotlin has null safety as well[1]. Not sure how generics in Kotlin compare to Ceylon, but it also improved on Java's generic support[2] by eliminating

Actually Kotlin has null safety as well[1]. Not sure how generics in Kotlin compare to Ceylon, but it also improved on Java's generic support[2] by eliminating wildcards, type projection, inferred types and some other features. Random question, but how far along is Ceylon's development compared to Kotlin's? I know they're both relatively new still, but just wondering how feature complete it is so far. [1] http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/Kotlin/Null-safety http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/Kotlin/Null-safety [2] http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/Kotlin/Generics http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/Kotlin/Generics