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Cold War 2.0
by epochwolf 13y ago
Cold War 2.0
- tankbot 13y agoMy thoughts exactly while reading the article. I also wondered if allegations against Huawei were falsified (assuming they were) not because they posed a security threat from the Chinese government, but because they would make it more difficult for U.S. surveillance programs.
- anigbrowl 13y agoDistinctly preferable to Hot War 3.0 if you ask me.
- nitrogen 13y agoIf you're forced to choose between a bullet in the head and one in the foot, you'll choose the foot almost every time. But why are those the only two choices?
- mpyne 13y agoBecause we don't get to unilaterally choose, is why.
- nitrogen 13y agoWho is "we" in this case? HN? The US? The UN? Humanity? If we don't get to choose for ourselves (for any definition of "ourselves"), who's making the choice for us, and why are hot war and cyber war the only choices?
- lostlogin 13y agoThe US fascination with war is kind of mind blowing when you first visit. The number of servicemen/women, the number of military related things (ships, planes etc), the papers, the news. Its much less militaristic down here on our tiny island - New Zealand.
- mpyne 13y ago"We" is humanity. The fact that you don't get to make the choice about what others do to you is one of the very big reasons we have the 2nd Amendment at all, as I recall.
- nitrogen 13y agoBut countries can choose what they do to others, and sometimes those choices have blowback. I remain unconvinced that those who decide such things for us are acting in our interests, or that the problems they claim exist can only be solved the way they claim to solve them.
- mpyne 13y agoThe fact that countries can choose what to do to others also means the other countries can choose what to do to us. By all means come up with better solutions and better leaders, but don't act like other countries don't get to make their own choice in what they do.
- nitrogen 13y agoBut we're not talking about other countries, are we? The title of the article is "Has the US Started an Internet War?" Why is the only choice between the US starting a cyber war and a hot war?
- mpyne 13y agoThat's not the only choice, but to defend against a war started against you, you need to have people trained in that before the war starts. In other words, you need to identify the need to form up those forces before a war starts, even if you don't intend to ever start one yourself.