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It's not even Soviet. It's worse. At least in the Soviet Union, one could travel freely without shakedowns that come at the drop of a hat.
by AmVess 13y ago
It's not even Soviet. It's worse. At least in the Soviet Union, one could travel freely without shakedowns that come at the drop of a hat.
- lmm 13y agoHuh? In the Soviet Union one had to be registered as residing in a particular city. You could be stopped and asked for your papers, and if you were in a different city from the one you were down as living in there would certainly be questions.
- chris_mahan 13y agoQuestions, perhaps. Not: "You are not allowed to be here, we don't care if your grandmother is dying; we don't care if you are attending your sister's wedding." This is what is happening in the US with the no-fly list.
- Vivtek 13y agoYes, exactly that, as in arm-behind-your-back marched to the train station under guard. If they didn't like your look, anyway.
- AmVess 13y agoI traveled in the Soviet Union in the 80's. Never once did I get subjected to the type of treatment that I get from the TSA, and I'm not on any DNF list. Also, don't confuse having to register to aid in central planning with ease of travel. As an American, I traveled all over HHA and rarely had to show my papers. So, no, there certainly weren't questions...not like you alluded to.
- lmm 13y ago>As an American, I traveled all over HHA and rarely had to show my papers. So, no, there certainly weren't questions...not like you alluded to. Erm, yeah, American visitors were treated differently from native subjects. No shit.
- greedo 13y ago"having to register to aid in central planning" Wow. I'm pretty sure that aiding central planning wasn't the goal of resident registration.
- gliese1337 13y agoThat didn't end with the Soviet Union. As of 2010, at least, that was still the case in Ukraine.
- jtome 13y agoChina also has laws about residency permits that they use to send rural migrants back home if they feel cities are getting too crowded
- gcb0 13y agoYou pretty much described the US/Mexico border. And a thousands miles not in the border as well.
- ctdonath 13y agoThere are checkpoints well within the USA which demand your papers, question your travel claims, and will detain you if anything seems amiss. They are spreading, and are not mere impromptu roadblocks but full-blown permanent "toll booth" structures.
- kzrdude 13y agoDo you have any examples?
- ctdonath 13y agohttp://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=youtube+immigration+checkpoint+am+i+free+to+go&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=youtube+...
- kzrdude 13y agoI had seen that video, I remember it now. How ridiculous that the onus is on the citizen, not the officer, to make sure the citizen is not subject to unreasonable search (meaning: The officers will try and see if they are "allowed").
- baddox 13y agoAirports.
- ctdonath 13y agoA perfect example, which has become so normalized that it has lost all meaning as an example to most people.