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Realm of Racket
- incision 13y agoNice. No Starch is probably my current favorite tech book publisher, I've yet to run across anything less than great under their label and I've been using DrRacket recently to work through SICP.
- omaranto 13y agoThere's a new release of Racket to go along with the book. It comes with a library ("collection" in racket-speak) with the source code of the book examples. http://blog.racket-lang.org/2013/06/racket-v535.html http://blog.racket-lang.org/2013/06/racket-v535.html
- derengel 13y agoyeah :) I couldn't resist getting on with the ebook yesterday and noticed my 5.3.4 install didn't have the realm dir.
- raphinou 13y agoLooks interesting indeed. However, i am not sure i will buy it due to the price of the ebook-only option, which is what i am interested in.
- JoelMcCracken 13y agoSee the comment above for a coupon code!
- shaunxcode 13y agoApparently on sale today with coupon code RACKETEERS making it like 23.97 for both print and ebook! I feel like I am a marketing shill or something but for real that is a great deal and I have been looking for a racket/scheme book to use for teaching! edit To follow up - got the book and have been reading through it. Already super impressed with the tone, pictures, lisp history lesson, and particularly the cartoon of guy and gerry!
- cosmez 13y agoThanks for the code, it saved me the entire shipping cost!
- Nekorosu 13y agohey! thanks. $19.17 for ebook only.
- syntacticsugar 13y agoThis is totally mega uber awesome as I am br0k3 right now and this saved me mega $$$$$. TY Shaun. My code mate Luis Borjas will appreciate this also. Maybe I should even forward this to the Hacker School students.
- mxBug 13y agoAha !! Finally a Racket book that my pupils will pay attention to... They've complained that textbooks and courses often don't teach how to build anything directly useful, but video games? Suddenly, no holds barred.
- Mikeb85 13y agoJust like Land of Lisp (also written by Conrad Barski). Not a bad thing.
- muuh-gnu 13y agoIt is not just like Land of Lisp, it seems to be just Land of Lisp ported to Racket by a group of students supervised by Conrad Barski and Matthias Felleisen. Barski and Felleisen arent even credited as the primary authors of the book.
- matthias_f 13y agoRealm of Racket (ROAR) is not a translation of Land of Lisp, but it is heavily inspired by LOL. Our emphasis is on readers who have done some programming, possibly in Racket-based teaching languages but not necessarily so, and who wish to see the beginnings of Racket. You may wish to check out the sample chapter on Hungry Henry and compare ROAR to LOL before you buy. Or borrow the book from a friend to see how ROAR ends in a chapter on #lang. The author team really consists of eight students and two 'old' people: David Van Horn and myself. As is tradition in my lab, young people go first and 'old' people come last on an author list. Everyone knows us already anyway. Enjoy! -- Matthias
- systems 13y agothe book website/author claims racket to be "the most unique programming language in the world"? Is it really, I know that racket is a scheme implementation, I thought scheme is to lisp what java is to c++, a saner less powerful version http://realmofracket.com/about.html http://realmofracket.com/about.html
- gecko 13y agoI actually get where the author's coming from. While it's tempting to think of Racket as a Scheme implementation, and that was at one time true, the situation these days is quite different. It's a lot more accurate to say that Racket ships with a Scheme-like default language (and an actual R5RS-compatible Scheme), but that it's actually a wonderful language toolkit. Racket has the ability for individual modules to use their own syntax. Not macros; full-fledged syntax. Racket ships with several Lisp-like syntaxes, but it also ships with Datalog and ALGOL-68. And this is very much unique to Racket.
- TylerE 13y agoSo sort of an LLVM for languages that failed to gain acceptance outside of academia?
- mjt0229 13y agoWhat does "most unique" even mean? Unique is by definition singular, is it not?
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- rohall 13y agoI'm tempted to buy this for friends. I started seriously programming after taking a class taught by Fellesien using How to Design Programs (http://htdp.org/ http://htdp.org/)
- xiaomai 13y agoFor anyone else looking to take a course like that, Coursera has a course on htdp right now: https://class.coursera.org/programdesign-001/class https://class.coursera.org/programdesign-001/class
- ripter 13y agoThe EBook is a PDF if you buy the combo. I wouldn't have bought it if I resized that.
- tylero 13y agoWe'll be posting the EPUB and MOBI files shortly. You'll get those soon.
- ripter 13y agoAh, that makes it better. I didn't see anything when I got the files that said the other formats would be available soon. Looking back at the site it only says it before you click buy. I didn't read the description before I started the checkout.
- Nekorosu 13y agoThat's nice to hear 'cause I already started complaining. :) I'll update my comment.
- Bootvis 13y agoThe website states that epub and mobi will be available soon. I assume that it will be made available to early buyers.
- Nekorosu 13y agoThe site states "PDF, Mobi, and ePub" but I can see only pdf download link. I'm a little disappointed.
- Nekorosu 13y agoI'm happy now. The links to ePub and Mobi will follow soon.
- brudgers 13y agoThe best way to describe Racket is as an ecosystem. The analogy I would make: EMACS : text editor Racket : programming language This is to say that Racket comes with enough batteries to make it a platform...or at least Racket is striving to achieve cradle-to-grave coverage. It doesn't just come with tutorials, but a complete programming course - How to Design Programs. It comes with tools for building languages, creating presentations, and writing documents. No email, though (yet). Racketeers are eating their own dog food. The Racket Way video gives a good introduction: http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Racket http://www.infoq.com/presentations/Racket
- takikawa 13y ago> No email, though (yet). Actually, it does do e-mail. :) https://github.com/mflatt/sirmail https://github.com/mflatt/sirmail Or if you want SMTP/IMAP libraries, you can look here: http://docs.racket-lang.org/net/ http://docs.racket-lang.org/net/
- brudgers 13y agoOnce again, JMZ is proves prophetic.
- marcocampos 13y agoJWZ ;)
- brudgers 13y agoSome people see the valleys, others the mountains?
- tsm 13y agoI'm a Common Lisp programmer, and am beginning to get tired of phrases like "But while Racket retains the functional goodness of Lisp, ...". It's becoming increasingly dishonest to peddle Lisp as a functional language that stands in contrast to, say, Ruby or Python or what have you. Yes, Lisp has very functional roots. But that was fifty years ago. The Lisp of the past two or three decades is fully multi-paradigmatic. It supports a functional style, but it supports other styles (object-oriented, imperative, ...) just as well if not better. Haskell is functional. ML is functional. Heck, Clojure is functional. If my only attraction to Lisp was FP I'd be using one of those languages instead. That said, lest I be perceived as too negative, I am very excited that this book is being published. Racket has always stricken me as very clean and friendly (two adjectives less applicable to CL), and advancing Lisp enthusiasm in any form is never a bad thing. Cheers!
- gus_massa 13y agoIn Scheme and Racket it's more idiomatic to use the functional version. It isn't enforced by the language. For example you can use imperative code locally but usually try to enclose that in an apparent functional procedure. In particular, a few years ago the Racket team made many structures immutable, to promote functional code and enable some optimizations. The language has the mutable versions, so you can use them if you like.
- tsm 13y agoThat's fine, I can accept that Racket favors FP. The point isn't that Racket tries to be functional, it's that Lisp as a whole doesn't.
- klibertp 13y agoAren't you conflating "Lisp" with "Common Lisp" here?I suspect this, because I was told that for CL users the word "Lisp" means their particular Lisp incarnation. For the rest of the world - at least in those parts of the world where people speak Scheme or Clojure or newLisp or Shen or... - the word "Lisp" means "a family of languages, descendants of John McCarthy's 'original' one with this original included". So your objection is unfounded - CL is not primarily FP oriented, but it was not CL that the author of the quote meant when writing the word "Lisp".
- binarycrusader 13y agoAs someone that bought and thoroughly enjoyed the "Land of Lisp", is there a point to also buying this book? Is Racket so much better that it's worth learning compared to Haskell, Erlang, Go, etc. ? Can someone comment on what unique insight or benefit I might gain from learning Racket and from this book?
- kaoD 13y agoIf you're going to put the effort, I'd choose Clojure. It's still a Lisp but a lot less awkward than most dialects and has a very rich ecosystem (and Java interop, which is both good and bad).
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- nixpulvis 13y agoExcited to buy this book and start seeing peers using it. Well done guys.
- TY 13y agoQuite surprised by a high cost of shipping a printed book to Canada - $19.95 per item that almost doubles the cost of the whole purchase. eBook it is...
- Tortoise 13y agoAmazon.ca has the book for CDN$ 26.43 (free shipping). http://www.amazon.ca/Realm-Racket-Learn-Program-Game/dp/1593274912/ http://www.amazon.ca/Realm-Racket-Learn-Program-Game/dp/1593...
- psutor 13y ago"Land of Lisp" is actually what turned me on to PG/HN/startups a few years ago. I believe there was a passing mention of PG somewhere near the beginning and that got me started reading essays. I am very excited for this book as I do prefer the cleanliness of Scheme to CL.