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I'm learning to approach such SWAG discussions filled with "golly, we just have no idea" by computing outer limits to at least establish "it can't possibly get
by ctdonath 13y ago
I'm learning to approach such SWAG discussions filled with "golly, we just have no idea" by computing outer limits to at least establish "it can't possibly get any worse/bigger/costlier than $X".
In this case, I was responding to "You might as well throw out any number" by throwing out a ballpark figure for the absolute worst case audio surveillance cost scenario: everyone, all the time. OK, so the final number is really huge, and doesn't take into account the many nuances you mention...but I know that reducing storage costs by orders of magnitude will leave plenty of room to accommodate your real-world details. With that sweeping overgeneralization, I've concluded that whatever the details of implementation and whatever the extent of monitoring desired, the cost is well within the operating expenditure of the US federal government.
Now that we know that it's not realistically going to cost more than 5% of gov't spending, we can contrast that with the NSA's actual budget, and guesstimate how big the eavesdropping effort really is from that.
If nothing else, it's an exercise to explain to common readers (not you, you're a telecom guy who groks this stuff) that it IS in fact possible (not easy, not cheap, but indeed practically possible) to record every phone call. The scale of capability of some modern technologies is otherwise incomprehensible to most people; they'll dismiss the notion out of hand unless you can quantify it in very simple terms they can instantly grasp, like "recording everyone 24/7 would cost no more than 5% of federal operating costs."
Kinda hard to mentally keep up with technology which has expanded a billion-fold in capacity in just 3 decades.
- bradleyland 13y agoI'd agree 100%. If I were establishing an outer limit, I would look at a couple of tier 2 long distance carriers (because there are very few that are nation wide), and add in a company like Backblaze or CrashPlan. It would make a fun exercise to dig in to the quarterly filings of some tier 2 LD carriers, but they buy and sell each other so often, and there are so few that operate nation wide, it ends up being a lot of work. Another possibility would be to compare to a mobile operator like Virgin or MetroPCS. Neither operate their own networks, but they do have their own backend systems. That would give you an idea of the size we're talking. It's really not all that big. I don't think people realize that the technology that drives telephone networks (especially once you get outside the last mile) lends itself very well to snooping.