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Note that the Jobs quote is linked, the "skeptic" quote is not. Once against Steve Jobs proves prescient compared to imaginary foes. A tablet with a bluetooth

Note that the Jobs quote is linked, the "skeptic" quote is not. Once against Steve Jobs proves prescient compared to imaginary foes. A tablet with a bluetooth keyboard is what traditionally would be called a laptop, and thanks to several iterations of hardware and software, a modern tablet holds its own. Is anyone seriously arguing that people dismissed the ideas of laptops being productive, or that they thought that the state of tablets wouldn't improve? Tangentially, Paper has got to be the most overhyped application in the history of applications. I mostly ignored it (after falling for the hype and grabbing it and all of the in-app purchases to actually have a marginally useful drawing program), but when they went on the road selling snake-oil about their trivial HSV "paint mixer" I really started to see the negativity in the hype.

monsterix 13y ago
> but when they went on the road selling snake-oil about their trivial HSV "paint mixer" I really started to see the negativity in the hype. Why blame the entrepreneur for media hyperbole? Tech media lately is full of hired journalists from traditional(sic) media. Many claim to be tech journos but only a handful understand technology. Guess it's a pattern similar to how mainstream reports on Snowden rather than real issues.
- corresation 13y ago
  Absolutely true, however they were complicit in the snake oil pitch, offering up quotes that were technically questionable, claiming some innovation that simply didn't exist. The alternate scenario is that some developers churned for a year and then led a manager on about how magical what they created was. http://goo.gl/jItcf http://goo.gl/jItcf
interpol_p 13y ago
On Paper being overhyped: I agree that their colour mixer is pretty mediocre, but they certainly nailed the right feeling with most of their drawing tools. It's still the app I go to most when I want to sketch a quick idea or thought process. It actually does what its name suggests and replaces a piece of paper for my use. There's a fluidity and aesthetic to it that no other iPad drawing app has matched yet. You mentioned you bought Paper and all of the in-app purchases — as far as I'm aware, Paper has always been free since launch (you can see this at its App Shopper link http://appshopper.com/productivity/paper-by-fiftythree http://appshopper.com/productivity/paper-by-fiftythree). I think the IAP is fairly priced considering how much use I've gotten out of the app.
- corresation 13y ago
  You're right -- the base app is free, thought it turns off all drawing tools but one, so I immediately bought all of those (and later bought the supposed year-of-work paint mixer). Perhaps I didn't get as great of an experience as I was using it on my 3rd gen iPad that pushed the pixel boundary before the rest of the hardware could follow.
  - interpol_p 13y ago
    Hmm, I also use it on a 3rd gen iPad and found it fairly responsive. I didn't buy all the tools immediately, though. I tested them and bought a few as-needed. I don't have the writing one (can't see a use for it). Perhaps it just doesn't suit your workflow. I still find the app remarkable in how much it makes me grab my iPad to sketch my thoughts. There's a distinct lack of friction to using Paper that allows it to take over for real paper.
joshdance 13y ago
I don't think that Paper is overhyped. It is the app I use most on my iPad. If you want to sketch on the iPad, you use Paper. What is overhyped about that? I haven't seen any claims that Paper will change the world.
ronilan 13y ago
> Tangentially, Paper has got to be the most overhyped application in the history of applications. Maybe. But, while we bought the iPad for many reasons, being able to draw by hand was not one of them. Paper enabled this in our household. Enabling consumers to create things is a pretty important feat. Introducing a new method? Me think it is worthy of some hype.
- MartinCron 13y ago
  My young daughter makes things in paper that are just plain beautiful. It may be overhyped to some, but I adore it.
  - jarek 13y ago
    s/in/on/ ?
    - aroch 13y ago
      She's making it in the application Paper, on an iPad.
      - jarek 13y ago
        Oh. Well, I guess that's a huge difference from a father finding his young daughter making things on paper that are just plain beautiful! Parents have always found their progeny's output amazing. Crayon drawings are easier to put up on the fridge, too. But hey, iPad.
        MattGrommes 13y ago
        iPad drawings are easier to email to grandparents / post to Facebook. But hey, nostalgia. :)
        jarek 13y ago
        because what Facebook's really missing is more new parents posting about their children and their creations ;)

monsterix 13y ago

> but when they went on the road selling snake-oil about their trivial HSV "paint mixer" I really started to see the negativity in the hype. Why blame the entrepreneur for media hyperbole? Tech media lately is full of hired journalists from traditional(sic) media. Many claim to be tech journos but only a handful understand technology. Guess it's a pattern similar to how mainstream reports on Snowden rather than real issues.

corresation 13y ago
Absolutely true, however they were complicit in the snake oil pitch, offering up quotes that were technically questionable, claiming some innovation that simply didn't exist. The alternate scenario is that some developers churned for a year and then led a manager on about how magical what they created was. http://goo.gl/jItcf http://goo.gl/jItcf

interpol_p 13y ago

On Paper being overhyped: I agree that their colour mixer is pretty mediocre, but they certainly nailed the right feeling with most of their drawing tools. It's still the app I go to most when I want to sketch a quick idea or thought process. It actually does what its name suggests and replaces a piece of paper for my use. There's a fluidity and aesthetic to it that no other iPad drawing app has matched yet. You mentioned you bought Paper and all of the in-app purchases — as far as I'm aware, Paper has always been free since launch (you can see this at its App Shopper link http://appshopper.com/productivity/paper-by-fiftythree http://appshopper.com/productivity/paper-by-fiftythree). I think the IAP is fairly priced considering how much use I've gotten out of the app.

corresation 13y ago
You're right -- the base app is free, thought it turns off all drawing tools but one, so I immediately bought all of those (and later bought the supposed year-of-work paint mixer). Perhaps I didn't get as great of an experience as I was using it on my 3rd gen iPad that pushed the pixel boundary before the rest of the hardware could follow.
- interpol_p 13y ago
  Hmm, I also use it on a 3rd gen iPad and found it fairly responsive. I didn't buy all the tools immediately, though. I tested them and bought a few as-needed. I don't have the writing one (can't see a use for it). Perhaps it just doesn't suit your workflow. I still find the app remarkable in how much it makes me grab my iPad to sketch my thoughts. There's a distinct lack of friction to using Paper that allows it to take over for real paper.

joshdance 13y ago

I don't think that Paper is overhyped. It is the app I use most on my iPad. If you want to sketch on the iPad, you use Paper. What is overhyped about that? I haven't seen any claims that Paper will change the world.

ronilan 13y ago

> Tangentially, Paper has got to be the most overhyped application in the history of applications. Maybe. But, while we bought the iPad for many reasons, being able to draw by hand was not one of them. Paper enabled this in our household. Enabling consumers to create things is a pretty important feat. Introducing a new method? Me think it is worthy of some hype.

MartinCron 13y ago
My young daughter makes things in paper that are just plain beautiful. It may be overhyped to some, but I adore it.
- jarek 13y ago
  s/in/on/ ?
  - aroch 13y ago
    She's making it in the application Paper, on an iPad.
    - jarek 13y ago
      Oh. Well, I guess that's a huge difference from a father finding his young daughter making things on paper that are just plain beautiful! Parents have always found their progeny's output amazing. Crayon drawings are easier to put up on the fridge, too. But hey, iPad.
      - MattGrommes 13y ago
        iPad drawings are easier to email to grandparents / post to Facebook. But hey, nostalgia. :)
        jarek 13y ago
        because what Facebook's really missing is more new parents posting about their children and their creations ;)