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Full flippant source is 79 lines: https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippant.js https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippan.

Full flippant source is 79 lines: https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippant.js https://github.com/mintchaos/flippant.js/blob/master/flippan... Call me old-fashioned but I prefer not to use these "mini JS and CSS" libraries for every little thing I do. Any competent JS/HTML developer be able to implement something like this using CSS3 transitions in an hour. Too many developers just paste libraries together these days.

ngoel36 13y ago
If I'm paying my dev $100k/year, I'd rather spend that $48/hour doing something else.
- joeyrobert 13y ago
  What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?
  - chc 13y ago
    It seems pretty obvious that he'd write the code himself in that case because it's actually a good use of his time. Are we pretending like the only options are "Never use code that's not invented here" and "Be totally reliant on other people to write your code for you"?
    - rhizome 13y ago
      If only this wasn't a topic and tendency covered extensively over the past 50 years.
    - dclowd9901 13y ago
      I've noticed a creeping mindset for some people that if they don't write their own code, they can't understand what's going on. I would rather have a developer well versed in reading and understanding code than one who has to write the bible by scratch.
umsm 13y ago
Why spend time re-inventing the wheel? If you're looking to sharpen your skills, then go for it. I believe most people would prefer to get their product out the door as quickly as it's reasonable.
- joeyrobert 13y ago
  Agreed, results are important but you're taking a chance trusting any library Joe Programmer created in a couple of hours. I think it's a form of Cargo cult programming.
  - sukoto 13y ago
    Where do you draw the line? No more frameworks? It's up to the dev to go through source and understand it. Having a test suite helps.
- esailija 13y ago
  What is the time it takes you to find this "library" and verify its fitness for your purpose? You can see that it causes runtime errors in IE8 and one had to read the source code to see this because it's not mentioned anywhere. If you are making a custom implementation specific to your application, most of the css and js is not needed (especially if you are using jQuery) or are useless and need to be changed. It would be so trivial to write you would not even think of finding a library for it.
orenbarzilai 13y ago
Hour is a long time when you can use libraries to do stuff like this in a manner of minutes.
- bronson 13y ago
  It's never minutes. Adopting someone else's library means now you're debugging their code on browsers they don't use. And, you need to figure out the inevitable idiosyncrasies like why do "card" and "modal" modes exist? Sometimes it's worth it. For this? Seems unlikely.

ngoel36 13y ago

If I'm paying my dev $100k/year, I'd rather spend that $48/hour doing something else.

joeyrobert 13y ago
What's he going to do when he comes across a problem where these is no library that solves it?
- chc 13y ago
  It seems pretty obvious that he'd write the code himself in that case because it's actually a good use of his time. Are we pretending like the only options are "Never use code that's not invented here" and "Be totally reliant on other people to write your code for you"?
  - rhizome 13y ago
    If only this wasn't a topic and tendency covered extensively over the past 50 years.
  - dclowd9901 13y ago
    I've noticed a creeping mindset for some people that if they don't write their own code, they can't understand what's going on. I would rather have a developer well versed in reading and understanding code than one who has to write the bible by scratch.

umsm 13y ago

Why spend time re-inventing the wheel? If you're looking to sharpen your skills, then go for it. I believe most people would prefer to get their product out the door as quickly as it's reasonable.

joeyrobert 13y ago
Agreed, results are important but you're taking a chance trusting any library Joe Programmer created in a couple of hours. I think it's a form of Cargo cult programming.
- sukoto 13y ago
  Where do you draw the line? No more frameworks? It's up to the dev to go through source and understand it. Having a test suite helps.
esailija 13y ago
What is the time it takes you to find this "library" and verify its fitness for your purpose? You can see that it causes runtime errors in IE8 and one had to read the source code to see this because it's not mentioned anywhere. If you are making a custom implementation specific to your application, most of the css and js is not needed (especially if you are using jQuery) or are useless and need to be changed. It would be so trivial to write you would not even think of finding a library for it.

orenbarzilai 13y ago

Hour is a long time when you can use libraries to do stuff like this in a manner of minutes.

bronson 13y ago
It's never minutes. Adopting someone else's library means now you're debugging their code on browsers they don't use. And, you need to figure out the inevitable idiosyncrasies like why do "card" and "modal" modes exist? Sometimes it's worth it. For this? Seems unlikely.