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I am not ignoring it at all. Smear campaigns exist for a lot of people, in a variety of fields, for a variety of reasons. Individuals running for government of

I am not ignoring it at all. Smear campaigns exist for a lot of people, in a variety of fields, for a variety of reasons. Individuals running for government office seem to always have smear campaigns run against them. I don't really read much into that, I'm curious why that is "strong meta evidence" to you. As many people focus to lend credence to his story as try to discredit him. Again, run-of-the-mill behavior for something like this. As you can see on sites like this, he has a lot of support. Someone lied under oath about things that are at best tangential to this story, if they relate at all. We don't have any real, actual evidence at all, other than the artifacts generated by one guy.

samstave 13y ago
>"Someone lied under oath about things that are at best tangential to this story, if they relate at all." This comment proves you're either completely delusional, uninformed, shilling or all of the above. First; "Someone" == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper He is the CURRENT HEAD of National Intelligence, directing a PUBLISHED budget of ~$50 BILLION dollars. The things he lied about are the CORE of this story, not "tangential" -- He specifically stated that the NSA collects "nothing" on US citizens, NOTHING. Given this statement by you, it is clear you're completely deluded.
- irishcoffee 13y ago
  > On August 5, 2010, Clapper was confirmed by the Senate in a unanimous vote.[5] Lawmakers approved his nomination after the Senate Intelligence Committee backed him with a 15-0 vote. During his testimony for the position, Director Clapper pledged to advance the DNI's authorities, exert tighter control over programming and budgeting, and provide oversight over the CIA's use of predator drones in Pakistan. So why is your beef with the NSA/The intelligence gathering effort?

samstave 13y ago

>"Someone lied under oath about things that are at best tangential to this story, if they relate at all." This comment proves you're either completely delusional, uninformed, shilling or all of the above. First; "Someone" == https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper He is the CURRENT HEAD of National Intelligence, directing a PUBLISHED budget of ~$50 BILLION dollars. The things he lied about are the CORE of this story, not "tangential" -- He specifically stated that the NSA collects "nothing" on US citizens, NOTHING. Given this statement by you, it is clear you're completely deluded.

irishcoffee 13y ago
> On August 5, 2010, Clapper was confirmed by the Senate in a unanimous vote.[5] Lawmakers approved his nomination after the Senate Intelligence Committee backed him with a 15-0 vote. During his testimony for the position, Director Clapper pledged to advance the DNI's authorities, exert tighter control over programming and budgeting, and provide oversight over the CIA's use of predator drones in Pakistan. So why is your beef with the NSA/The intelligence gathering effort?