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I would love to hear the perspective of a native chinese person here - a little hard to take the New York Times as an unbiased source given the tension there la

I would love to hear the perspective of a native chinese person here - a little hard to take the New York Times as an unbiased source given the tension there lately.

meric 13y ago
I have many chinese friends and many of them are pursuing Master's degrees - because a bachelor's degree just isn't enough help towards getting a good job. It seems for many of them to solution of diminishing advantage of education is simply even more education.
- yen223 13y ago
  A Master's degree also helps fulfill certain visa requirements if you want to pursue a career outside of China.
  - sjg007 13y ago
    as so goes the global economy.
- roy_x 13y ago
  Given the poor education that most Chinese graduate school provided, it is really a big waste-of-life for many young guys pursuing it. The good thing is that it only cost two years to get a master degree now. 10 years ago, I spent 3 years for it. I wish I had the courage to quit it that time.
roy_x 13y ago
A native Chinese is in :-) It is always tough for new graduates to find a good job in recent years. Given the housing cost got really high in big cities like Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou, there is a so called "flee-away-from-tier-1-cities-campaign" word made up by new graduates. When I graduated a decade ago, there are a lot of proud new graduates whom sincerely believed that they have a bright future ahead. But nowadays, most young people seems not thinking so anymore. It is difficult to change your social status by education and hard-working. That is something really bad and it is more than faltering economy of this year, it is about the meta-rules of how society running. Most of the traditional Chinese dynasties failed because same kind of problems.
- Volpe 13y ago
  What do you think a viable solution for the tier 1 cities is?
  - roy_x 13y ago
    There is nothing new under the sun. Public housing, allow villagers to sell their land to market directly... there is a lot of way to achieve it and many other countries have done it successfully before. It is a technical issue which can not be solved because of corruption/inequality/unfairness under the current political system. Political reform is needed, or a revolution may come instead sooner or later.
    - Volpe 13y ago
      I'm a little skeptical a "revolution" will ever improve things (in the short term). Revolutions are generally costly in almost every way possible. China's growth and prosperity don't seem to justify one (at this point in time). How do villagers sell their land now? I thought market sales were already being done? So is this another issue in china that is a result of the "mid-level" corruption?
      - roy_x 13y ago
        >I'm a little skeptical a "revolution" will ever improve things (in the short term). Revolutions are generally costly in almost every way possible. I am not promoting the idea of revolution. In fact, I think it is bad for almost everyone. My point is that any wise man in the current administration should stop it before too late. >China's growth and prosperity don't seem to justify one (at this point in time). Maybe I am too pessimistic. Last year, the riot-control budgets( literally called stability-maintaining in China) is almost the same as the military expenditure. >How do villagers sell their land now? I thought market sales were already being done? By constitution law, in China, urban lands belong to government, and rural lands belong to villages, however, it is not allowed(by a policy made by government) for villages to sell their land to real-estate merchants directly, they can only sell lands to the government in a price made by the government. In this way, governments become the only provider of available lands, and they can charge as much as they want.

I would love to hear the perspective of a native chinese person here - a little hard to take the New York Times as an unbiased source given the tension there lately.

meric 13y ago

I have many chinese friends and many of them are pursuing Master's degrees - because a bachelor's degree just isn't enough help towards getting a good job. It seems for many of them to solution of diminishing advantage of education is simply even more education.

yen223 13y ago
A Master's degree also helps fulfill certain visa requirements if you want to pursue a career outside of China.
- sjg007 13y ago
  as so goes the global economy.
roy_x 13y ago
Given the poor education that most Chinese graduate school provided, it is really a big waste-of-life for many young guys pursuing it. The good thing is that it only cost two years to get a master degree now. 10 years ago, I spent 3 years for it. I wish I had the courage to quit it that time.

roy_x 13y ago

A native Chinese is in :-) It is always tough for new graduates to find a good job in recent years. Given the housing cost got really high in big cities like Beijing/Shanghai/Guangzhou, there is a so called "flee-away-from-tier-1-cities-campaign" word made up by new graduates. When I graduated a decade ago, there are a lot of proud new graduates whom sincerely believed that they have a bright future ahead. But nowadays, most young people seems not thinking so anymore. It is difficult to change your social status by education and hard-working. That is something really bad and it is more than faltering economy of this year, it is about the meta-rules of how society running. Most of the traditional Chinese dynasties failed because same kind of problems.

Volpe 13y ago
What do you think a viable solution for the tier 1 cities is?
- roy_x 13y ago
  There is nothing new under the sun. Public housing, allow villagers to sell their land to market directly... there is a lot of way to achieve it and many other countries have done it successfully before. It is a technical issue which can not be solved because of corruption/inequality/unfairness under the current political system. Political reform is needed, or a revolution may come instead sooner or later.
  - Volpe 13y ago
    I'm a little skeptical a "revolution" will ever improve things (in the short term). Revolutions are generally costly in almost every way possible. China's growth and prosperity don't seem to justify one (at this point in time). How do villagers sell their land now? I thought market sales were already being done? So is this another issue in china that is a result of the "mid-level" corruption?
    - roy_x 13y ago
      >I'm a little skeptical a "revolution" will ever improve things (in the short term). Revolutions are generally costly in almost every way possible. I am not promoting the idea of revolution. In fact, I think it is bad for almost everyone. My point is that any wise man in the current administration should stop it before too late. >China's growth and prosperity don't seem to justify one (at this point in time). Maybe I am too pessimistic. Last year, the riot-control budgets( literally called stability-maintaining in China) is almost the same as the military expenditure. >How do villagers sell their land now? I thought market sales were already being done? By constitution law, in China, urban lands belong to government, and rural lands belong to villages, however, it is not allowed(by a policy made by government) for villages to sell their land to real-estate merchants directly, they can only sell lands to the government in a price made by the government. In this way, governments become the only provider of available lands, and they can charge as much as they want.