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There are actually a lot of kids, and people with average jobs in SF. They just aren't white so tech people don't notice them. Regarding old people, retired pe

by rdouble 13y ago

There are actually a lot of kids, and people with average jobs in SF. They just aren't white so tech people don't notice them. Regarding old people, retired people are actually the fastest growing demographic in the city.

collypops 13y ago
Retired people are the fastest growing demographic in every city. We're living longer.
- rdouble 13y ago
  Yeah, but the article I read suggested that rich Californians from other parts of the state were choosing SF as a place to retire. (Whereas people actually from SF were leaving due to costs) I'll try to dig up the article if I can.
jweir 13y ago
Look at the census data for SF. There are far fewer children there than average in the US. I think the average is around 24% for under 18. In SF it is around 12%. Brooklyn, by comparison, is average.
bifrost 13y ago
There really aren't. I live in one of the few "family" neighborhoods in this city and there are maybe 2-3 families with kids within blocks of here. Plenty of non-white people around here too. If you go out to the "burbs", everyone has kids...
- rdouble 13y ago
  I guess I lived next to an elementary school so it seemed like there were a lot of kids. I know statistically it's low but I chalked this up to the large numbers of transient workers and singles. Amongst groups who seemed more rooted in the city (like, say Chinese people in the Richmond) it seemed like the number of kids was about the same as anywhere.
_pius 13y ago
There are actually a lot of kids, and people with average jobs in SF. They just aren't white so tech people don't notice them. This, 1000x this.
- davidw 13y ago
  > This, 1000x this. Repeating a grammatical error 1000 times does not make it "more better". If you look at actual statistics, they do seem to back up my impression: income in SF is not your typical bell curvish distribution you'd see in many other places. There are a lot of people making a lot of money, more at still quite a bit of money, and a small peak for those making very little money, and fewer in between: http://www.city-data.com/income/income-San-Francisco-California.html http://www.city-data.com/income/income-San-Francisco-Califor... Look at: Distribution of median family income in 2009 (number of people) Distribution of median household income in 2009 (number of people)
  - _pius 13y ago
    Repeating a grammatical error 1000 times does not make it "more better". Douché. If you look at actual statistics, they do seem to back up my impression .... You're either confused about my comment or making a completely non sequitur argument for the heck of it. The claim I agreed with was that there are actually a lot of (largely minority) kids and people with average jobs in SF. That is true and can be shown so by inspection, at that. There are plenty of kids and families who live in my neighborhood (I'm on the cusp of Union Square and the Tenderloin). If you take a ride on the T towards Bayview in the middle of the afternoon, you'll also see plenty of kids. Are the public schools in San Francisco just empty, waiting for families to move in and send their kids there? Of course not. As for people with "average jobs," who do you think is serving you that latté, helping you at Macy's, or cleaning your office? They don't just ship all of those people in from Oakland. That San Francisco has no children or working class is a preposterous idea, mostly advanced by those who fail to step outside of the high-rent parts of the city.

by rdouble 13y ago

collypops 13y ago

Retired people are the fastest growing demographic in every city. We're living longer.

rdouble 13y ago
Yeah, but the article I read suggested that rich Californians from other parts of the state were choosing SF as a place to retire. (Whereas people actually from SF were leaving due to costs) I'll try to dig up the article if I can.

jweir 13y ago

Look at the census data for SF. There are far fewer children there than average in the US. I think the average is around 24% for under 18. In SF it is around 12%. Brooklyn, by comparison, is average.

bifrost 13y ago

There really aren't. I live in one of the few "family" neighborhoods in this city and there are maybe 2-3 families with kids within blocks of here. Plenty of non-white people around here too. If you go out to the "burbs", everyone has kids...

rdouble 13y ago
I guess I lived next to an elementary school so it seemed like there were a lot of kids. I know statistically it's low but I chalked this up to the large numbers of transient workers and singles. Amongst groups who seemed more rooted in the city (like, say Chinese people in the Richmond) it seemed like the number of kids was about the same as anywhere.

_pius 13y ago

There are actually a lot of kids, and people with average jobs in SF. They just aren't white so tech people don't notice them. This, 1000x this.

davidw 13y ago
> This, 1000x this. Repeating a grammatical error 1000 times does not make it "more better". If you look at actual statistics, they do seem to back up my impression: income in SF is not your typical bell curvish distribution you'd see in many other places. There are a lot of people making a lot of money, more at still quite a bit of money, and a small peak for those making very little money, and fewer in between: http://www.city-data.com/income/income-San-Francisco-California.html http://www.city-data.com/income/income-San-Francisco-Califor... Look at: Distribution of median family income in 2009 (number of people) Distribution of median household income in 2009 (number of people)
- _pius 13y ago
  Repeating a grammatical error 1000 times does not make it "more better". Douché. If you look at actual statistics, they do seem to back up my impression .... You're either confused about my comment or making a completely non sequitur argument for the heck of it. The claim I agreed with was that there are actually a lot of (largely minority) kids and people with average jobs in SF. That is true and can be shown so by inspection, at that. There are plenty of kids and families who live in my neighborhood (I'm on the cusp of Union Square and the Tenderloin). If you take a ride on the T towards Bayview in the middle of the afternoon, you'll also see plenty of kids. Are the public schools in San Francisco just empty, waiting for families to move in and send their kids there? Of course not. As for people with "average jobs," who do you think is serving you that latté, helping you at Macy's, or cleaning your office? They don't just ship all of those people in from Oakland. That San Francisco has no children or working class is a preposterous idea, mostly advanced by those who fail to step outside of the high-rent parts of the city.