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I pointed this out above, but this is really a course for CS people that glosses over a lot of computer engineering topics that you need to, say, design your ow

I pointed this out above, but this is really a course for CS people that glosses over a lot of computer engineering topics that you need to, say, design your own processor. It's definitely a tremendous accomplishment, but let's keep our pants on here.

angersock 13y ago
Such as? Does it skip over K-maps or something?
- alanctgardner2 13y ago
  If you control-f, there's squabbling at length below about the fact that they don't cover k-maps, k-maps aren't important, etc. Or you're being sarcastic. I'd hate to assume that, but someone did go through and downvote all of my posts.
  - angersock 13y ago
    I was looking for more of a list of topics it omits that are absolutely required to implement a functioning processor. A sufficiently simple little register-based RISC CPU with memory-mapped IO, no interrupts, no caches or TLBs, and so on is a functioning (if gimped) computer.
    - alanctgardner2 13y ago
      Sorry about that, you can see I'm kind of getting clobbered below. I don't think the problem is that the end result isn't a computer (it certainly sounds like it is), but that the computer only runs in the provided simulator, and is written in a custom HDL designed to make this project relatively simple. The simulator itself ignores a bunch of complexities around timing that a commercial one (like ModelSim) would consider. Personally I haven't done this class, but I'd be curious to know whether the students design the control unit and data path themselves. I know that was a giant pain in the ass when I did it for a gimped RISC processor (as you described).
      - gruseom 13y ago
        Probably you're getting clobbered because you made lots of negative comments about something that's really cool, and because your criticism (that it falls short of a complete degree program in computer engineering) misses the point of the thing.

angersock 13y ago

Such as? Does it skip over K-maps or something?

alanctgardner2 13y ago
If you control-f, there's squabbling at length below about the fact that they don't cover k-maps, k-maps aren't important, etc. Or you're being sarcastic. I'd hate to assume that, but someone did go through and downvote all of my posts.
- angersock 13y ago
  I was looking for more of a list of topics it omits that are absolutely required to implement a functioning processor. A sufficiently simple little register-based RISC CPU with memory-mapped IO, no interrupts, no caches or TLBs, and so on is a functioning (if gimped) computer.
  - alanctgardner2 13y ago
    Sorry about that, you can see I'm kind of getting clobbered below. I don't think the problem is that the end result isn't a computer (it certainly sounds like it is), but that the computer only runs in the provided simulator, and is written in a custom HDL designed to make this project relatively simple. The simulator itself ignores a bunch of complexities around timing that a commercial one (like ModelSim) would consider. Personally I haven't done this class, but I'd be curious to know whether the students design the control unit and data path themselves. I know that was a giant pain in the ass when I did it for a gimped RISC processor (as you described).
    - gruseom 13y ago
      Probably you're getting clobbered because you made lots of negative comments about something that's really cool, and because your criticism (that it falls short of a complete degree program in computer engineering) misses the point of the thing.