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Mozilla is effectively the only player in the browser space that I still feel I can trust not to have commercial motives to hoover up data about me. That's why

by swombat 13y ago

Mozilla is effectively the only player in the browser space that I still feel I can trust not to have commercial motives to hoover up data about me. That's why I've switched to Firefox since the NSA scandal started. I think they could do worse, strategically, than take a strong, consistent stance throughout their product(s) and communications, to make Mozilla the browser and email client of choice for those who don't want to leave a huge slimy trail of cookies and web bugs for anyone who's interested to track. Worth noting this is not saying that either Safari or Chrome are worse browsers in general, or that they have security holes to feed the NSA machine - but any piece of data that a US company has about you is a piece of data that could be passed to the NSA under a FISA order, or even a future law change a decade away from now. The fewer of those pieces of data you create, the better, imho.

oscargrouch 13y ago
Very good analysis! also mozilla can be more safer?! yes indeed.. but he got a good point too.. there's a bad behaviour and culture of trying to watch of what you are doing on your behalf, without notice. What we let them(anyone outside) note about us.. should be our decision.. .. you click a button, you sign a contract.. data should not "escape" from us.. this is a bad behaviour, and its contagious.. US companies are full of it.. its not just a government issue.. companies have been doing this for years.. with different purposes than government.. This is just the beginning of the unveilling of a bad behavioral pattern that must stop, period. Nobody is giving a #$% about our privacy and our rights, because they are being served of you and me in a silver plate and this make them more powerful and rich.. even if they are "the good guys".. everybody must stop.. Its good people are wakening up!
jmilkbal 13y ago
Mozilla are the only ones without a hidden modus operandi. They make a web browser and have become the organization to trust because their mission is make the web a better place. Google want to sell ads and do everything in their power to bombard its users about whom they so desperately needs to know everything. Apple and Microsoft are busy creating lock-in. I don't actually understand how any one knowing about these and knowing what a force for good Mozilla strives to be could possibly use anything but Mozilla products. We are implicitly telling these companies that we accept their behavior. The same attitudes about deomcracy, "how can my single voice mean anything", applies just as much to corporations and using their products and sending money to them. It's a plague and we can work against. You just have to (at least in the context of this thread) spend a few seconds to go back to the browser with your interests at heart and quit destroying the web for the rest of us.

by swombat 13y ago

oscargrouch 13y ago

Very good analysis! also mozilla can be more safer?! yes indeed.. but he got a good point too.. there's a bad behaviour and culture of trying to watch of what you are doing on your behalf, without notice. What we let them(anyone outside) note about us.. should be our decision.. .. you click a button, you sign a contract.. data should not "escape" from us.. this is a bad behaviour, and its contagious.. US companies are full of it.. its not just a government issue.. companies have been doing this for years.. with different purposes than government.. This is just the beginning of the unveilling of a bad behavioral pattern that must stop, period. Nobody is giving a #$% about our privacy and our rights, because they are being served of you and me in a silver plate and this make them more powerful and rich.. even if they are "the good guys".. everybody must stop.. Its good people are wakening up!

jmilkbal 13y ago

Mozilla are the only ones without a hidden modus operandi. They make a web browser and have become the organization to trust because their mission is make the web a better place. Google want to sell ads and do everything in their power to bombard its users about whom they so desperately needs to know everything. Apple and Microsoft are busy creating lock-in. I don't actually understand how any one knowing about these and knowing what a force for good Mozilla strives to be could possibly use anything but Mozilla products. We are implicitly telling these companies that we accept their behavior. The same attitudes about deomcracy, "how can my single voice mean anything", applies just as much to corporations and using their products and sending money to them. It's a plague and we can work against. You just have to (at least in the context of this thread) spend a few seconds to go back to the browser with your interests at heart and quit destroying the web for the rest of us.