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I hope the author appreciates the irony of hosting this blog with svbtle…

by anon1385 13y ago

znowi 13y ago
Why? Is it an NSA cover? :)
- jalev 13y ago
  More that it's a closed-source, invite-only blogging platform that had a somewhat mixed announcement[1] (partially due to the invite-only status) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742314
  - kybernetyk 13y ago
    Oh, I always assumed it was a popular wordpress theme.
    - statictype 13y ago
      I believe it's also a popular word press theme. Which also caused a fair amount of controversy for looking like its ripping off svbtle
      - remi 13y ago
        Yes, https://github.com/themeskult/wp-svbtle https://github.com/themeskult/wp-svbtle.
giulivo 13y ago
yes, not only that but I'm getting bored by people pretending they're doing anything good just because they've (finally) realized that using non-free software suffers from collaterals I'm bored by people pretending they've gone free just because they managed to replace OSX with some exotic gnu/linux distro (and with exotic I mean whatever which isn't mainstream) And I'm bored by people upvothing posts like this And I know someone will tell is me who is wrong (and boring) but listen, that is just your opinion, as this is mine. One thing isn't opinionable though, svbtle isn't free, so this post really isn't a good one, for me And if your story is about "how you reinstalled some random gnu/linux", well that is a 20 years old story; what is an hacker (news reader) interested in? the .Xmodmap settings? The fight for freedom today seems to me to have been moved for the great part somewhere else, on the webapps. How about we "return to freedom" by debating on how we get rid of all these non-free web applications?
- agilebyte 13y ago
  What does esotic mean?
  - giulivo 13y ago
    yeah thanks for pointing that out, I'll fix that btw, I meant to say "exotic"
    - agilebyte 13y ago
      Ah thanks. Yeah Crunchbang might look exotic now but I think it is an up and comer. It is currently #16 here http://distrowatch.com/ http://distrowatch.com/ just above Slackware and basically offers a minimal UI on top of Debian.
- giulivo 13y ago
  Also, I'm not selling myself as the only good guy around who always makes good decisions. I use and need a replacement for gmail, for todoist, for linkedin and probably a few others. So what would an hacker, returning to freedom, suggest as replacement?
- bnegreve 13y ago
  > I'm bored by people pretending they've gone free just because they managed to replace OSX with some exotic gnu/linux distro Isn't it better than just doing nothing? What are you planning to do to do any good? What do you think the average non-tech guy should do?
  - giulivo 13y ago
    sure it is better than doing nothing, except in my perception HN isn't a place for average non-tech guys so I get bored by this kind of posts About me, I'm planning (and practicing) not to release any non-free code and also looking for alternatives to a few web apps which I'm still unable to replace (as per first post). That would be a much nicer topic to discuss for me. Installing gnu/linux, no really. Again that is 20years old story.
steveklabnik 13y ago
:) Svbtle, while not free software, is on my domain, and Dustin will give a dump of my data at any time. There is some level of irony, but this isn't about being a zealot. I have enough control over Svbtle for my needs. Blogging software is way different than my operating system.
- catmanjan 13y ago
  You really don't get it... Why should one software be less free than another.
  - jwandborg 13y ago
    I don't get what it is he's not getting. Could you explain?
    - deleted 13y ago
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      - anon1385 13y ago
        I wasn't suggesting you don't get it. I was just highlighting a contradiction, although one that I think illustrates a point; that there is generally a tradeoff between freedom and convenience. Different people have different levels of expertise, amounts of time and tolerance of inconvenience that influences their software choices. One other point, in the article you say: The PRISM debacle of the last week confirmed my fears and reasoning, and so I made the decision to accelerate the schedule. If it is government spying you are worried about then using non-free web apps is surely a much greater risk than non-free native software. At least you can stick a proxy in front of your Windows box and block/monitor where it is connecting to and what data it sends. With web apps your data could have been siphoned off to some NSA data centre without you ever knowing about it. Also I find it mildly depressing that being able to retrieve your own data is seen as the mark of a really 'free and open' webapp. Even with the most proprietary of native software I typically still control my data. Webapps took us a step backwards in that regard and partial reversal on that front is not a sign of great progress, it's a sign that we are struggling to even maintain the status quo.
D9u 13y ago
Another who attacks the messenger rather than consider the message...
- jlgreco 13y ago
  Not so much attacking the messenger, or the message, but rather the message medium. Making jabs at svbtle seems to be a HN favourite.

I hope the author appreciates the irony of hosting this blog with svbtle…

znowi 13y ago

Why? Is it an NSA cover? :)

jalev 13y ago
More that it's a closed-source, invite-only blogging platform that had a somewhat mixed announcement[1] (partially due to the invite-only status) [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742314 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3742314
- kybernetyk 13y ago
  Oh, I always assumed it was a popular wordpress theme.
  - statictype 13y ago
    I believe it's also a popular word press theme. Which also caused a fair amount of controversy for looking like its ripping off svbtle
    - remi 13y ago
      Yes, https://github.com/themeskult/wp-svbtle https://github.com/themeskult/wp-svbtle.

giulivo 13y ago

yes, not only that but I'm getting bored by people pretending they're doing anything good just because they've (finally) realized that using non-free software suffers from collaterals I'm bored by people pretending they've gone free just because they managed to replace OSX with some exotic gnu/linux distro (and with exotic I mean whatever which isn't mainstream) And I'm bored by people upvothing posts like this And I know someone will tell is me who is wrong (and boring) but listen, that is just your opinion, as this is mine. One thing isn't opinionable though, svbtle isn't free, so this post really isn't a good one, for me And if your story is about "how you reinstalled some random gnu/linux", well that is a 20 years old story; what is an hacker (news reader) interested in? the .Xmodmap settings? The fight for freedom today seems to me to have been moved for the great part somewhere else, on the webapps. How about we "return to freedom" by debating on how we get rid of all these non-free web applications?

agilebyte 13y ago
What does esotic mean?
- giulivo 13y ago
  yeah thanks for pointing that out, I'll fix that btw, I meant to say "exotic"
  - agilebyte 13y ago
    Ah thanks. Yeah Crunchbang might look exotic now but I think it is an up and comer. It is currently #16 here http://distrowatch.com/ http://distrowatch.com/ just above Slackware and basically offers a minimal UI on top of Debian.
giulivo 13y ago
Also, I'm not selling myself as the only good guy around who always makes good decisions. I use and need a replacement for gmail, for todoist, for linkedin and probably a few others. So what would an hacker, returning to freedom, suggest as replacement?
bnegreve 13y ago
> I'm bored by people pretending they've gone free just because they managed to replace OSX with some exotic gnu/linux distro Isn't it better than just doing nothing? What are you planning to do to do any good? What do you think the average non-tech guy should do?
- giulivo 13y ago
  sure it is better than doing nothing, except in my perception HN isn't a place for average non-tech guys so I get bored by this kind of posts About me, I'm planning (and practicing) not to release any non-free code and also looking for alternatives to a few web apps which I'm still unable to replace (as per first post). That would be a much nicer topic to discuss for me. Installing gnu/linux, no really. Again that is 20years old story.

steveklabnik 13y ago

:) Svbtle, while not free software, is on my domain, and Dustin will give a dump of my data at any time. There is some level of irony, but this isn't about being a zealot. I have enough control over Svbtle for my needs. Blogging software is way different than my operating system.

catmanjan 13y ago
You really don't get it... Why should one software be less free than another.
- jwandborg 13y ago
  I don't get what it is he's not getting. Could you explain?
  - deleted 13y ago
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    - anon1385 13y ago
      I wasn't suggesting you don't get it. I was just highlighting a contradiction, although one that I think illustrates a point; that there is generally a tradeoff between freedom and convenience. Different people have different levels of expertise, amounts of time and tolerance of inconvenience that influences their software choices. One other point, in the article you say: The PRISM debacle of the last week confirmed my fears and reasoning, and so I made the decision to accelerate the schedule. If it is government spying you are worried about then using non-free web apps is surely a much greater risk than non-free native software. At least you can stick a proxy in front of your Windows box and block/monitor where it is connecting to and what data it sends. With web apps your data could have been siphoned off to some NSA data centre without you ever knowing about it. Also I find it mildly depressing that being able to retrieve your own data is seen as the mark of a really 'free and open' webapp. Even with the most proprietary of native software I typically still control my data. Webapps took us a step backwards in that regard and partial reversal on that front is not a sign of great progress, it's a sign that we are struggling to even maintain the status quo.

D9u 13y ago

Another who attacks the messenger rather than consider the message...

jlgreco 13y ago
Not so much attacking the messenger, or the message, but rather the message medium. Making jabs at svbtle seems to be a HN favourite.