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I hope we see a lot more of this soon. It's disappointing to see so many hackers using proprietary OSes/editors/etc. to build systems based on free software.

by xiaomai 13y ago

Sven7 13y ago
via Tim Wu's Master Switch - open vs closed = freedom vs convenience It's a trade-off. One is not better than the other.
- johntrollvolta 13y ago
  Freedom vs. convenience is a false dichotomy.
- nawitus 13y ago
  Eh, that's a false trade-off. I'm more productive on a free OS, which I can customize to my needs (since I can choose a the best window manager for me from tens of good alternatives and so on).
  - Sven7 13y ago
    It takes time and effort to make a good choice "from tens of good alternatives". Its great to have that freedom, but to many, spending that time and effort is an inconvenience. That is the trade off.
    - airtonix 13y ago
      a stitch in time saves nine.
kybernetyk 13y ago
I'd really love to switch to linux (tiling WMs rock). But I'm developing OS X desktop software ... so switching will probably stay a wish for the next few years :/
- cantankerous 13y ago
  I can relate. Switching to Linux and then having a project crop up for Windows/Mac can be pretty disheartening. I suppose you can always run a VM for Windows, but it seems to be a "cheap" solution to the problem you initially decided to try and solve.
- catenate 13y ago
  You could run the Inferno VM over OSX to use its variant of unixy commands, "os" to run OSX commands, and edit files and run commands from the tiling windows in Acme. That way you'd get the best of both worlds. This works for me in Windows and Linux (only the commands I run with "os" change, the rest of my environment is cross-platform), and I hear it works in OSX.
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Adirael 13y ago
I don't care much about licenses or which parts of my stack are OS and which are not. I just want to create things and if using [Proprietary OS] instead of [Linux Distro] lets me work more efficient so be it.
- davidw 13y ago
  That's a good way to have something blow up on you once you realize that you've based everything on something with the wrong licensing, and now you're on the hook for a lot of money. Software often has very strong lock-in effects - what you choose today may what you'll be stuck with for the next 5, 10, 20 years.

I hope we see a lot more of this soon. It's disappointing to see so many hackers using proprietary OSes/editors/etc. to build systems based on free software.

by xiaomai 13y ago

I hope we see a lot more of this soon. It's disappointing to see so many hackers using proprietary OSes/editors/etc. to build systems based on free software.

Sven7 13y ago

via Tim Wu's Master Switch - open vs closed = freedom vs convenience It's a trade-off. One is not better than the other.

johntrollvolta 13y ago
Freedom vs. convenience is a false dichotomy.
nawitus 13y ago
Eh, that's a false trade-off. I'm more productive on a free OS, which I can customize to my needs (since I can choose a the best window manager for me from tens of good alternatives and so on).
- Sven7 13y ago
  It takes time and effort to make a good choice "from tens of good alternatives". Its great to have that freedom, but to many, spending that time and effort is an inconvenience. That is the trade off.
  - airtonix 13y ago
    a stitch in time saves nine.

kybernetyk 13y ago

I'd really love to switch to linux (tiling WMs rock). But I'm developing OS X desktop software ... so switching will probably stay a wish for the next few years :/

cantankerous 13y ago
I can relate. Switching to Linux and then having a project crop up for Windows/Mac can be pretty disheartening. I suppose you can always run a VM for Windows, but it seems to be a "cheap" solution to the problem you initially decided to try and solve.
catenate 13y ago
You could run the Inferno VM over OSX to use its variant of unixy commands, "os" to run OSX commands, and edit files and run commands from the tiling windows in Acme. That way you'd get the best of both worlds. This works for me in Windows and Linux (only the commands I run with "os" change, the rest of my environment is cross-platform), and I hear it works in OSX.

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Adirael 13y ago

I don't care much about licenses or which parts of my stack are OS and which are not. I just want to create things and if using [Proprietary OS] instead of [Linux Distro] lets me work more efficient so be it.

davidw 13y ago
That's a good way to have something blow up on you once you realize that you've based everything on something with the wrong licensing, and now you're on the hook for a lot of money. Software often has very strong lock-in effects - what you choose today may what you'll be stuck with for the next 5, 10, 20 years.