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Well, let's take a look at two definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative https://en.wikipedia.o

Well, let's take a look at two definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservative https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crony_capitalism (what I mean by corporatist) Think about those two in the context of the president's actions and come back to your statement. Let's tally his accomplishments, shall we? He's bailed out private corporations at the expense of the middle class (ugh, don't like this phrase) through both taxes, and worse, inflation. He's not only continued the middle eastern wars, he's vastly expanded them (and I won't even mention drones). He's allowed the wholesale spying on Americans. Increased the size of the incompetent DHS. Basically said that murdering Americans without due process is alright. He hasn't legalized gay marriage. He hasn't decriminalized marijuana. What political ideology does that sound like? The president has only been 'liberal' on one point: healthcare. Even there, he basically handed (well, forced) over all our healthcare to private corporations. And our healthcare is still expense, even more so! Look, President Obama is neither liberal or conservative, he's a political opportunist who's actions happen to align with the neoconservatives minus the religious stuff (thankfully). I doubt it's intentional, but if it walks like a duck...

twoodfin 13y ago
Religious stuff? Do you know the origins of the term "neoconservative"?
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cmccabe 13y ago
Obama, together with the Fed, pulled the US back from the brink of financial disaster in 2008. If the banks and AIG hadn't been bailed out, we'd be in a great depression now. Luckily we learned something since 1930 (although people like you didn't, apparently). Obama pulled us out of Iraq and Afghanistan more or less on schedule. And he kept us from getting sucked into Libya and Syria, except for extremely minor aid like the 2011 no-fly zone, and arming the rebels in Syria. Obama has used executive orders to promote policies like reducing allowed federal standards for carcinogens, promoting open data standards, and much else. http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/10/government-data-open-and-machine-readable-by-default-announces-president-obama/ http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/10/government-data-open-and-mac...
- philwelch 13y ago
  Since Obama wasn't sworn into office until 2009, I'm curious what he did in 2008 to prevent financial disaster.
  - cmccabe 13y ago
    As a senator, Obama voted for TARP in 2008 (as did fellow candidate McCain). So in some sense, he did do something. It would also be naive to believe that he didn't spend a lot of time planning his future actions during that year. But you are correct that his main role in solving the 2008 financial crisis came in 2009 after he was sworn in.

twoodfin 13y ago

Religious stuff? Do you know the origins of the term "neoconservative"?

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cmccabe 13y ago

Obama, together with the Fed, pulled the US back from the brink of financial disaster in 2008. If the banks and AIG hadn't been bailed out, we'd be in a great depression now. Luckily we learned something since 1930 (although people like you didn't, apparently). Obama pulled us out of Iraq and Afghanistan more or less on schedule. And he kept us from getting sucked into Libya and Syria, except for extremely minor aid like the 2011 no-fly zone, and arming the rebels in Syria. Obama has used executive orders to promote policies like reducing allowed federal standards for carcinogens, promoting open data standards, and much else. http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/10/government-data-open-and-machine-readable-by-default-announces-president-obama/ http://blog.okfn.org/2013/05/10/government-data-open-and-mac...

philwelch 13y ago
Since Obama wasn't sworn into office until 2009, I'm curious what he did in 2008 to prevent financial disaster.
- cmccabe 13y ago
  As a senator, Obama voted for TARP in 2008 (as did fellow candidate McCain). So in some sense, he did do something. It would also be naive to believe that he didn't spend a lot of time planning his future actions during that year. But you are correct that his main role in solving the 2008 financial crisis came in 2009 after he was sworn in.