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I don't like it either, but: "Somewhat strange information related to a story that's big right now" is quite a desirable commodity in the news business. It's a

by skore 13y ago

I don't like it either, but: "Somewhat strange information related to a story that's big right now" is quite a desirable commodity in the news business. It's a perfect opener ("Have you heard this candid fact about a person that you didn't even know about before yesterday!?") and fakes in-depth knowledge ("Oh boy, they're really looking into everything!") even if there's isn't much of a story right now. Yes, it's devoid of information. Yes, it's not in the public interest to know. Yes, it comes at a cost to the person talked about that is disproportional to the gain the audience has from the information. Yes, she wasn't in the public eye. But is this definite proof of propaganda? No. More likely it's just yet another outgrowth of what happens when news organizations are competing for attention. It's histrionic. But, well, there's human nature for you. [edit] As noted by a comment - I'm only pointing out a flaw in the OPs logic. This really might be propaganda, but OPs "proof" simply isn't one.

eruditely 13y ago
What sheer and utter apologism.
- skore 13y ago
  I didn't mean to make an apology, just pointing out that the logic that is applied as "proof" isn't coherent proof at all.
  - wavefunction 13y ago
    It's not logic. There are women all over the country doing "pole dancing" classes and men and women who frequent "pole dancing" establishments and so it's really just a smear of a young woman for guilt by association. That's how shitty the "elites" are, they will go after anyone and everyone in their mad scramble to protect their golden gooses.
    - skore 13y ago
      Absolutely, but the bar for news is low. As long as people recognize something and then think "Oh!", it's good enough for release. "Pole dancing" may be a hobby for some folks, but it still is uncommon enough to be a tiny bit remarkable. I read the fact about the pole dancing stuff and thought "Oh.". So there. Once again - I completely follow the train logic and it could be that way. But it isn't necessarily proof for a theory about propaganda or "the elites".
      - wavefunction 13y ago
        Indeed. The bit about the "elites" is just my own opinion. I mean people who are invested in the status quo and thus interested in maintaining it, even when it is apparent that there is a need for change. I put the term in quotes because it's more of a mindset they seem to have than an objective qualifier.

by skore 13y ago

eruditely 13y ago

What sheer and utter apologism.

skore 13y ago
I didn't mean to make an apology, just pointing out that the logic that is applied as "proof" isn't coherent proof at all.
- wavefunction 13y ago
  It's not logic. There are women all over the country doing "pole dancing" classes and men and women who frequent "pole dancing" establishments and so it's really just a smear of a young woman for guilt by association. That's how shitty the "elites" are, they will go after anyone and everyone in their mad scramble to protect their golden gooses.
  - skore 13y ago
    Absolutely, but the bar for news is low. As long as people recognize something and then think "Oh!", it's good enough for release. "Pole dancing" may be a hobby for some folks, but it still is uncommon enough to be a tiny bit remarkable. I read the fact about the pole dancing stuff and thought "Oh.". So there. Once again - I completely follow the train logic and it could be that way. But it isn't necessarily proof for a theory about propaganda or "the elites".
    - wavefunction 13y ago
      Indeed. The bit about the "elites" is just my own opinion. I mean people who are invested in the status quo and thus interested in maintaining it, even when it is apparent that there is a need for change. I put the term in quotes because it's more of a mindset they seem to have than an objective qualifier.