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I'm confused. I thought Palantir's product Prism is not the same thing that NSA calls PRISM. Has this been confirmed either way?

nashequilibrium 13y ago
My advice, is wait at least 2 weeks, then start reading the news on this saga. That is what i am doing, all i hear is snippets on tv, now i hear that the Guardian is walking back many of their statements, Mark Andreessen just said that he was holding judgement as well until everything becomes clearer. Everybody else on HN are having emotional and knee jerk reactions, when we get a solid longform peace of journalism in a few weeks, then we will get a clearer picture. Until then i just ignore all the links here on the topic and focus on tech.
- wavefunction 13y ago
  The Guardian is not "walking back their claims:" the NSA slide claimed "direct" access. Now, does it really matter if the NSA has root on the server or if it's just some sort of mirroring/splitting scheme? You seem all too happy to adopt the loaded language of the naysayers for someone claiming rational forbearance.
  - mquander 13y ago
    That obviously matters a tremendous amount, both in terms of how much we should continue to trust the companies involved and also what countermeasures we can take.
- jack-r-abbit 13y ago
  I've been trying to lately. I'm not as outraged as many so my opinion tends to get smacked around a bit. So now I try to ignore a lot of it... or at least read things with an open mind, knowing that perhaps some people are wrong at times.
aswanson 13y ago
Really weird, I guessed as much a while back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928896
- jack-r-abbit 13y ago
  Ya... a lot of other people have too. Unfortunately, I'm looking for confirmation rather than guessing. Palantir has said they're not involved... but I'm not sure that counts as confirmation either. lol
  - aswanson 13y ago
    Truth be told, we'll never really know. Oh well. Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean there is no one spying on us.
nemothekid 13y ago
In another thread, a software engineer working for Palantir commented that the two systems were not the same.

nashequilibrium 13y ago

My advice, is wait at least 2 weeks, then start reading the news on this saga. That is what i am doing, all i hear is snippets on tv, now i hear that the Guardian is walking back many of their statements, Mark Andreessen just said that he was holding judgement as well until everything becomes clearer. Everybody else on HN are having emotional and knee jerk reactions, when we get a solid longform peace of journalism in a few weeks, then we will get a clearer picture. Until then i just ignore all the links here on the topic and focus on tech.

wavefunction 13y ago
The Guardian is not "walking back their claims:" the NSA slide claimed "direct" access. Now, does it really matter if the NSA has root on the server or if it's just some sort of mirroring/splitting scheme? You seem all too happy to adopt the loaded language of the naysayers for someone claiming rational forbearance.
- mquander 13y ago
  That obviously matters a tremendous amount, both in terms of how much we should continue to trust the companies involved and also what countermeasures we can take.
jack-r-abbit 13y ago
I've been trying to lately. I'm not as outraged as many so my opinion tends to get smacked around a bit. So now I try to ignore a lot of it... or at least read things with an open mind, knowing that perhaps some people are wrong at times.

aswanson 13y ago

Really weird, I guessed as much a while back: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4928896

jack-r-abbit 13y ago
Ya... a lot of other people have too. Unfortunately, I'm looking for confirmation rather than guessing. Palantir has said they're not involved... but I'm not sure that counts as confirmation either. lol
- aswanson 13y ago
  Truth be told, we'll never really know. Oh well. Just because we're paranoid doesn't mean there is no one spying on us.

nemothekid 13y ago

In another thread, a software engineer working for Palantir commented that the two systems were not the same.