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I wish I had some numbers but I can't look them up right now. How many American's are currently not even voting? I bet most of them are younger voters who bel

by theklub 13y ago

I wish I had some numbers but I can't look them up right now. How many American's are currently not even voting? I bet most of them are younger voters who believe their vote doesn't matter for one reason or another. Perhaps engaging them could be a good first step. And also a huge shift in party power could take a lifetime but does that mean it shouldn't be attempted?

untog 13y ago
I bet most of them are younger voters who believe their vote doesn't matter for one reason or another. I bet most of them are people who don't care about politics. Good luck trying to engage them, people have been trying to do so for decades and have failed. The simple reality is that life is comfortable enough for most. Few are starving, few are persecuted- if you're earning enough to live a relatively comfortable life, why bother voting?
- ledge 13y ago
  Speaking only for myself, as a young person who does not vote, it's not a lack of interest in politics or the state of world affairs. I'll vote only once the electoral process is significantly reworked, until then I have better ways to engage civically.
mindcrime 13y ago
I wish I had some numbers but I can't look them up right now. How many American's are currently not even voting? OK, just to cite one example: The population of North Carolina as of 2012 was 9,752,073. 23.7% are under 18 and therefore ineligible to vote. That leaves approximately 7,440,831 eligible voters[1] (I'm ignoring convicted felons and other edge cases for now). According to the State Board of Elections, there are currently 6,438,531 registered voters. 2,764,322 Democrats, 1,984,251 Republicans, 20,901 Libertarians and 1,669,057 unaffiliated.[2] So that gives us around 1,002,300 potential voters who aren't even registered. So around 13% of the eligible voters aren't even registered and obviously don't vote. Now that's just one state, and that doesn't even attempt to account for people who are registered, but don't bother to vote, or vote infrequently. But it does suggest that there's a not-insignificant number of people who are sitting on the sidelines during elections. Edit: Also, as one might expect, there's a Wikipedia page on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_Sta... [1]: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37000.html http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37000.html [2]: http://www.ncsbe.gov/ http://www.ncsbe.gov/
- theklub 13y ago
  Thank you!
- rallison 13y ago
  Of course, the felony issue isn't an edge case in some states: http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000287 http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=0... Your North Carolina example still stands, as only (only being relative here) ~80,000 people are disenfranchised due to felony status. But, in states like Florida, Mississippi and Kentucky, it can be as high as 10% of the voting age population.
  - mindcrime 13y ago
    Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize just how high those numbers were!
ctdonath 13y ago
Their complete disinterest aside, are there seriously more of them than each of the two major parties? and will vote for the new party, which is committed to doing unpopular things?

by theklub 13y ago

untog 13y ago

I bet most of them are younger voters who believe their vote doesn't matter for one reason or another. I bet most of them are people who don't care about politics. Good luck trying to engage them, people have been trying to do so for decades and have failed. The simple reality is that life is comfortable enough for most. Few are starving, few are persecuted- if you're earning enough to live a relatively comfortable life, why bother voting?

ledge 13y ago
Speaking only for myself, as a young person who does not vote, it's not a lack of interest in politics or the state of world affairs. I'll vote only once the electoral process is significantly reworked, until then I have better ways to engage civically.

mindcrime 13y ago

I wish I had some numbers but I can't look them up right now. How many American's are currently not even voting? OK, just to cite one example: The population of North Carolina as of 2012 was 9,752,073. 23.7% are under 18 and therefore ineligible to vote. That leaves approximately 7,440,831 eligible voters[1] (I'm ignoring convicted felons and other edge cases for now). According to the State Board of Elections, there are currently 6,438,531 registered voters. 2,764,322 Democrats, 1,984,251 Republicans, 20,901 Libertarians and 1,669,057 unaffiliated.[2] So that gives us around 1,002,300 potential voters who aren't even registered. So around 13% of the eligible voters aren't even registered and obviously don't vote. Now that's just one state, and that doesn't even attempt to account for people who are registered, but don't bother to vote, or vote infrequently. But it does suggest that there's a not-insignificant number of people who are sitting on the sidelines during elections. Edit: Also, as one might expect, there's a Wikipedia page on this topic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_States_presidential_elections http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_the_United_Sta... [1]: http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37000.html http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/37000.html [2]: http://www.ncsbe.gov/ http://www.ncsbe.gov/

theklub 13y ago
Thank you!
rallison 13y ago
Of course, the felony issue isn't an edge case in some states: http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000287 http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=0... Your North Carolina example still stands, as only (only being relative here) ~80,000 people are disenfranchised due to felony status. But, in states like Florida, Mississippi and Kentucky, it can be as high as 10% of the voting age population.
- mindcrime 13y ago
  Thanks for pointing that out. I didn't realize just how high those numbers were!

ctdonath 13y ago

Their complete disinterest aside, are there seriously more of them than each of the two major parties? and will vote for the new party, which is committed to doing unpopular things?