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Encrypting email would only make sense if both sides are equally encrypting it. If you're using the most paranoidal encryption, but your email buddy does not -
by gesman 13y ago
Encrypting email would only make sense if both sides are equally encrypting it.
If you're using the most paranoidal encryption, but your email buddy does not - than it's all just plain silly.
But even then if Joe and Bill suddenly got smarty-pants and started encrypting their communication - NSA would get suspicious and will find out what you guys are up to via other channels.
"The best way to hide information - is to convince others that it does not exists"
--Me
- gesman 13y agoPS: The ultimate solution would be to use Tor-based email (similar to tormail.org) at both sides AND encrypt it from both ends. Then NSA does not know who is communicating and NSA does not know what they are talking about. Problem solved.
- enraged_camel 13y ago>>Problem solved. I wouldn't be so sure. Snowden was hinting at the NSA having the mechanism to break encryption. I lost the exact quote, but it was a direct response to the suggestion that we encrypt everything, and was something along the lines of, "you wouldn't even believe what the NSA is really capable of - it's scary." Even if they don't have the means to get around encryption, you still aren't fully secure. What if you have a keylogger installed on your machine? What if the hardware itself has been designed to aid the NSA? Intel, after all, is one of their regular collaborators.
- m_eiman 13y agoIf they have to install a keylogger, at least they have to specifically target you.
- tomjen3 13y agoIf NSA can break modern crypto (especially if they can do it in real time) then it is a secret at least as big as Ultra/Magic and the NSA wouldn't ever dare to use anything they found on you this way, even if it was the only way to prevent another 9/11.
- grysh 13y agoBut they will know you are using Tor.
- stephen_g 13y agoBetter that than them knowing exactly to whom and how much you are communicating.
- drdaeman 13y agoIf this becomes popular (easy-to-use bundled software is a must), knowledge about whenever one uses Tor or I2P would be as useful as knowledge that the person in question uses the Internet.
- bebna 13y ago"Rot13 is enough encryption for everyone." --Me
- kunai 13y agoRot13 may not be, but a randomized numerical substitution cipher along with good encryption should be enough to throw off anyone snooping. It is complicated to explain to your family that they should make their emails a jumbled mess, however...
- cabalamat 13y ago> But even then if Joe and Bill suddenly got smarty-pants and started encrypting their communication - NSA would get suspicious and will find out what you guys are up to via other channels. Unless everyone used encrypted email. And the only way to achieve that is to make it really easy to use, i.e. to have a zero user interface, so the program automatically encrypts it on the way out and automatically decrypts it on the way in. Key distribution can be handled by putting the public key in the header. The only drawback is this is vulnerable to man-in-the-middle attacks.
- mike-cardwell 13y agoYou can gain a lot of benefits from PGP even if you don't know anybody else that uses it: https://grepular.com/Automatically_Encrypting_all_Incoming_Email https://grepular.com/Automatically_Encrypting_all_Incoming_E...